For those who haven't done it legit and just sat around waiting for cheeses.. A big -blam!- them is in order :) they're obviously deserve to struggle with other noobs when hard is released and eve thing is patched! I feel for people on LFG that have to put up with those :( If anyone needs tips or lessons on how Crota works etc including walkthroughs just hit me up on PSN: NZHoneyBadger. I'll spend some time coaching a fireteam if it means on return they'll help people out too!