I liked doing it without kneeling cheese but I have no problem with it destiny shits on us with Dlc for 20$ that's barely playable besides grinding for loot in a look what I have you don't pissing contest what have they given the user for 60$. You might as we'll take any advantage you can get. I don't see Bethesda saying you get rivet city or white run then charging out the ass for everything else. Atleast borderlands gave you a 100 hrs of grinding mixed with content and the option of doing more if you wanted. Elitism is overrated