I agree totally, its not that its too hard but its too hard/long for what it should be. Whats the reward for beating him? A boss that takes twice as long as Atheon (Atheon takes 2 teleports possibly 3), A low chance of an exotic but most possibly, high probability of a shard or energy. People are comment stroking their own pen is about my team this my team that. Its very reliant on either all 30s or people with Ice breaker or Gjall, why not any other exotic sniper or rocket Launcher? My experience from getting groups from LFG went from about 40-1 hr 30 doing the hard raid, having laugh but enjoying it to getting upto the templar and getting so frustrated that people leave and the whole raid takes far longer. Im glad the cheese is fixed but i think the templar is over powered. Do not reply to this with "get a better team" or "play better", i go on random groups and im talking about the average.