The hard truth is that bungie always screws up their own creations and can NEVER make publisher deadlines. That's why deej calls these claims bs yet doesn't defend bungie. I'll never understand why bungie fans trust, love, defend and follow bungie so blindly. Fact: Halo 2's multiplayer was originally envisioned by bungie to be 32 player, massive, vehicle driven wars (like battlefield). They couldn't pull it off and hacked their own creation THEMSELVES, Microsoft had nothing to do with that decision. And they STILL released it a year later than Microsoft wanted. That's on bungie. Fact: bungie did nothing but let halo fans down following the first halo and it wasn't until 343 took over that halo finally redeemed itself and entered the 21st century of gaming. It was all downhill after halo:ce. Until halo 4, it was the same recycled, community run garbage we had seen for a decade. Slow, glitchy, laggy, oh and by the way - lacking in story. Anyone remember ODST? Microsoft and 343 saved halo and gave it a much needed and long overdue makeover. Bungie nearly ruined their own and best franchise that made them famous. bungie and their sheep-like fans blamed Microsoft for whoring out the franchise and how bungie and halo parted ways. But, the proof is in the pudding. Why did halo rise again to the top of the fps world once it was out of their hands? Why is halo 4 the best halo to date? Now, it's all activision's fault? When they don't even own the IP or the studio like they did with COD or Microsoft did with halo. With bungie, only three things are consistent: they can't make deadlines, they ruin their own creations and visions, and it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. Remember when destiny was supposed to release in 2013? How is this not the same crap bungie has been infamous for in the past decade? Most likely, like what has happened in the past, bungie couldn't pull off their vision, couldn't make deadlines, gut their own game, ruined their own creation and let their own fans down...AGAIN. This is their M.O. 404 only mentions activision when he comments on pressure for bungie to make their deadline. Wow, that sounds familiar. Even if there is an ounce of truth to the bungie supporters' claims, why would bungie allow yet another publisher to "ruin" their art? That would also be THEIR fault. Truth is it's always been bungie's fault and not everyone elses. Their track record speaks for itself. It's not the rest of the world who's crazy, it's just the blind and naive bungie supporters and the mudslinging failures at bungie who are.