This is something I'm a little concerned about too. So far in my group, most of us have two characters to raid with, but I'm the first to make three, now I've got my Titan to 26. Of course, I'm not gonna ask my buddies to run it a third time when I'm the only one who'll get rewards, so I'm gonna have to run it with greenies. And like you, I have zero interest in cheesing, glitching, or whatever you wanna call it. Me and my buddies have proven to ourselves just how simple the raid is when you get your strategy straight, in fact I'd say it's probably easier to do it legit than to cheese it. I suspect it's gonna take me a few tries to find a decent group tomorrow... Also, the idea of Hunters being useless in VoG is complete balls. I felt a damn sight more useful running it with my Hunter than I did with my Warlock. Golden Gun on Supplicants FTW