This is getting so ridiculous, it's such an absurd thought to truly believe that because you went through a raid that took a few hours, not that insane, that you then get to ruin the game in pvp for thousands of other people. Everyone is complaining about the whiners but look what everyone with a vex mythoclast has become, the most annoying whiners ever because now they have to actually use skill in pvp to come out on top. You have no right to, because you "powered" through the grueling raid, which is a cool accomplishment to then ruin the game for everyone that payed the same price for the game. I do agree that with pve it should be very powerful and that is your prize, but the balance of pvp should be where it is now, thank god bungie listened to all the "whiners" or else everyone that has hours and hours to play and get that weapon would be able to mow down players with no skill needed, how do you truly believe that the game should allow that, I'm sorry if your not good at pvp but a cheapa** gun is not what the game needs, no matter how hard it is to obtain. The point of awesome loot is to have a slight edge, and an awesome look of that loot, not to break the game because the super high level players feel entitled to own in pvp with no skill at all, just because you have three level 30 characters does not entitle you to ruin the game for others and give no chance, you already have every perk and small bonuses you literally need that gun to be good?? Got get over yourselves and practice or something, definitely stop whining about whiners.