I got a little more light for you guys..just posted it on reddit so read below: Guys, I just leveled up FWC to lvl4 rep and did get these gloves - they are still available to purchase at FWC vendor and needs Ascendant Motes to upgrade but I get the ones upgradeable with Ascendant Shards - screenshot follows. http://i.imgur.com/YcpK3eL.jpg http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2gp67y/hunter_gear_from_future_war_cult_is_bugged/ckob93i