PS+ is required for multiplayer on the PS4. That has been a fact since the PS4 was first announced, and so you had to have known that when you bought [or were more likely given] the system. Knowing that, you should have known that if you bought a multiplayer game you would not be able to play with others online without PS+ As for extortion. Hardly, for $50 a year you get at least 24 free games that are forever tied to your PSN. So all that said: if you don't want to pay for PS+, get a PC and hope Destiny gets launched there sometime soon.

I read your whole post and all I have to say is get over it. Only person your hurting with your stubbornness is yourself. $50 per year gets you 24 free games and access to multiplayer games. I paid the $50 a year on PS3 back when they didn't have 2 free games a month, just to help pave the way for a higher quality network. So when the PS4 change to network policy came out it didn't matter to me. Nothing free is high quality. Bungie is offering us top notch servers that need to be maintained and it's not free.

There are those of us who don't play regularly enough to justify those free games. Not everyone is constantly gaming day in and day out to play all those games as well as their own games. I don't care about other games just the ones I buy. I don't care or have time for the supposed free titles. It's not like you get physical game discs with no strings attached either. Everyone keeps saying "ooh look at how many free games, so much value for me" - yeah that might be true, except if you had no time or interest for games beyond those you buy yourself. Why should I pay for online for the games I bought in order to get games I do not even want which I will never play anyway? PS+ is just not for me. Ofcourse, when I get a PS4 I will be forced to get it, cuz online without it is just so crippled it's not even an option.

that is a reason I stuck with my PS3

Ps3 ftw. Nuff said. Bring on the hacks I got alt emails and all my shit is paid for by psn cards. No cc info on me.

You only need ps+ to do strikes and raids everything else you can do for free

[quote]I'm writing this in hopes that others agree with my concerns, and hopefully bring them to the attention of the people producing what seems to me to be the only well-budgeted, creative, passionately-made game due on PS4 any time soon. I'm writing because I am VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED to the requirement that PS4 players, and indeed, any Destiny players, should be REQUIRED to subscribe to PS+ (or XBL?) in order to play the game. Yes, I'm ranting and I'm cheap, but if I'm that honest, you can at least be honest enough to read the rest of this before making a decision. In the previous Generation of Gaming ("LastGen"), PS+ made sense - it was a decision based purely in logic: are you one of the gamers who plays multiple new games each month, easily making back your PS+ subscription fee? Done. Otherwise, an easy pass. [b][u] In this Generation of Gaming ("CurrentGen"), PS+ is being used to EXTORT people who have ALREADY PAID for the games in question. [/u][/b] Here's an example: I recently purchased Worms over the PSN for $25. Nothing new, just the same old Worms experience I'd had on other consoles, transplanted to PS4. Many complained about the pricepoint, but I was happy to have my worms. Until I found out that I could not play a SINGLE other living being, and had just paid $25 to fight cheap A.I.s. If the game had been Free-To-Play, or even just a bit cheaper, fine. But that's a big chunk of change, and I feel like I've paid. FULLY. Fast Forward to Bungie's Destiny (I hope you guys're reading!): it costs WELL more than $25, isn't a "one more..." game but the PS4's flagship title, and it's PERSISTENTLY ONLINE. PERSISTENTLY ONLINE. This is one of the biggest reasons why, in CurrentGen, it's basically a mafioso-style practice to ask people to subscribe to PS+/XBL in order to play multiplayer sections of the games. Why? BECAUSE THE ENTIRE GAME IS MULTIPLAYER! Also, we're not the ones who make that choice - BUNGIE, YOU decided to make your game persistently MMO, and YOU are planning to sell it to us for $60. "You can buy our game, the whole game, for no small price, buuuuuut.... you can't play any of it!" It sometimes helps to hear other people repeat things we've said back to us, only in their own words, as they hear it. Perspective is difficult. Maybe Sony made this call, and you guys have nothing to do with it. But there it is. Don't sell us half of it. In fact, with the amount of online you're promising, don't sell us 10% of it! Sell us the whole damn game, and sell it for $100 if you have to! But sell it and be done. Or make a single player game. But make up your mind, and have a little respect for the people supporting you with their hard-earned money.[/quote] So Sony giving you $10 off per year for online multiplayer (as opposed to Xbox Live) is somehow extorting you of your money? You said it yourself that Destiny will always be up and online. Would it be fair to Sony, Bungie, or Activision if they experienced fixed losses for maintaining Destiny's always online servers? Are they a charity or a business? Furthermore, did you realize that Sony actually loses money when they produce a PS4 console for you to buy? With the expensive input costs, I've read that Sony only makes about $10-$20 profit per console - which is negated by all of the free console replacements they send out through customer support. Grow up - and offer to pay for PS+ Or remain a child - and buy an Xbone.