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原先发布于:Secular Sevens
原先发布于: Obamacare is working
4/16/2014 6:03:21 PM
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I can see this working in the long run, but short term? It's not working at the moment because of the backlash. It'd be better to have universal or socialized healthcare as a whole rather than a watered down version that was only watered down to appease the other side. The Republican Side will always throw a hissy fit about something that doesn't line their wallets with cash. Obamacare/ACA is one of those things. The Republicans in Congress will also try to repeal this every single chance they get, wasting more money in the process. People will blame Obama for the debt, even though Congress is the one truly in charge of that, such is the game of politics.
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  • x'D

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  • 1/3 of all people who signed up were those that never had insurance. Compare that to the 40 million people still uninsured. Exactly tell me how that is successful? It isn't. Not even the AFFORDABLE Care Act is affordable for millions of Americans Many Dems have now spoken out against the ACA when they were the ones defending it back during the shutdown fiasco. Guess who was right all along? The Republicans, which is evident after a poll by gallup shows 54% of Americans now against it Obama flat out lied to the public and millions of Americans, lost their plans and doctors along with premiums increasing. All ObamaCare is, is a glorified tax that does NOT do healthcare reform justice So I can't wait till 2016 when a president gets elected that will issue an executive order terminating this shitty ass tax. Get rid of it and develop an actual system of healthcare that gives those who are not fortunate enough a piece of mind when they go to sleep at night. Bet you were one of those Dems that always blamed Bush for the debt and still do today, right?

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  • 由Section Ratio General编辑: 4/17/2014 2:53:16 AM
    [quote]So I can't wait till 2016 when a president gets elected that will issue an executive order terminating this shitty ass tax.[/quote] Great, by then, I'll be in Canada, most likely. Better health coverage, and the people are actually easy to get along with, unlike Americans. Really, I am ashamed to be an American at this point. I wish my parents didn't immigrate here and veered off-course. 'Mericans disgust me. And I have already said in the forum numerous times (Probably you didn't notice since you're so blinded by the "he dusnt belieb in wut i belieb in so hes a libturd hurr durr" mentality that you're suffering from) that I'm an Independent and now REGISTERED Independent. But hey, if someone differs from your views, you're automatically evil, right? Edit: Also saw that you pretty much copypasta'd the exact same thing and someone pretty much made it apparent of what they think of your opinion. So, here is the same thing I think: [quote]BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [spoiler]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/spoiler][/quote]

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  • 由IchEsseKinder编辑: 4/17/2014 3:01:27 AM
    Great. Can't wait till you leave and allow us Americans to continue to be Americans and not some carbon-copy clone of Europe Ironic considering you're the one that is blinded by the "he dusnt belieb in wut i belieb in so hes a conservturd hurr durr" mentality. I quote this from what Dustin said about me [quote]When I first noticed you on the forum, you just seemed like any typical conservative poster to me, but eventually I saw that you also had a personality here. And you're one of the few people here who will reason instead of closing your ears and screaming "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"[/quote] You're the only person here who actually thinks that I'm some blinded -blam!-. Hell, I've said it multiple times that I used to be VERY liberal but your constant obsession to hate me pushes that aside. I really don't care what you register as. You show many Democrat social and economic ideals that I will label you as a Democrat.

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  • If you wanna get technical then humans first started out in Africa. Although that's not what I'm discussing. I'm discussing the topic of turning America into a political and economic copy of Europe. Funny, you criticize me for getting off topic but you are the one that is doing so Did I call you conservative? No, dumbass. If you actually opened your eyes then you'd see I'm a Libertarian. Again, dumbass. Oh and guess who else has haters? Hitler. Guess you're saying Hitler did something right for killing millions of people Yes, I do know you're a Democrat. You are against the idea of pro-life, you support a Democrat economic system, you support gun control, you support socialized healthcare, you support amnesty to illegals, etc. YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT. If stupid shit is telling the truth then you're an utter and complete -blam!-tard

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  • I see you're still a complete idiot that has no idea what she is talking about.

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  • wrong, it is already destroying the middle class.

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  • source?

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  • The cost of premiums tripling -_-

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  • source?

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  • I am not here to feed you sources. Instead of blindly listening to whatever news source you follow how about you look around a bit. It is common knowledge that the premium of everyone who pays for insurance is going up to pay for the bottom feeders.

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  • 由SuperSmeller编辑: 4/16/2014 6:32:22 PM
    [quote]It is common knowledge that the premium of everyone who pays for insurance is going up to pay for the bottom feeders.[/quote]premiums go up every. single. year. this year is no different, now people like you just blame the aca instead of usual business practices. unless you provide sources, theres no reason to take your claims seriously.

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  • I am sorry you don't understand that a 4.4 trillion dollar piece of legislation during the midst of a financial crisis is economic suicide. I am sorry you do not understand that our country has no money.

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  • that doesn't address my question in the slightest. also, raise taxes if we don't have money. oh. right. only dirty commies raise taxes.

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  • You are quite honestly the most clueless person I have come in contact with. How old are you if you don't mind answering?

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  • so you insult me without answering any of my questions? gg.

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  • 由M37h3w3编辑: 4/16/2014 6:58:03 PM
    Age is irrelevant here. Only reason why you are asking is so that if he's young, you can lord it over his head and use it as an excuse to invalidate anything he has to say. You say that the ACA is destroy the middle class because of increasing premiums but premiums were already going up BEFORE the ACA. Do you have proof that the ACA is causing more premium increasing? Or that it's causing premium increasing at an increased rate?

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  • Forbes a good enough source?

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  • Now was that so hard?

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  • I have no problem producing sources. I take issue with individuals who must have them for something to even be considered factual.

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  • Because on the internet, nobody ever lies. And people never manipulate statistics and data to favor their views.

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  • Here is a graph. The largest increase is for the demographic of young adults.

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