You're the kinda guy who sucked at H3 and tries his ass off on H4.

[quote]opinion[/quote]I posted statistical data AND my opinion. That's much different than some retard on Waypoint telling me that Halo 4 is the best Halo game.

[quote]opinion[/quote] Still posted an opinion so my point still stands. [quote]Halo[/quote] [quote]Waypoint[/quote] [quote]telling me its the best game[/quote] This just goes to show how stupid you are for trying to argue Halo on its home website.

I'm not arguing anything on that shithole. I just went by there a few minutes ago though, and noticed one thread where some idiot says Halo 4's MP is better than Halo 3's, and another saying that 343i needs to ignore the fans. Both threads are on the front page. Your point doesn't stand, because you're a goddamn retard. You're completely ignoring the most important portion of my post with your strawman bullshit.

I read your entire post, its just irrelevant because I enjoy Halo. [b]Especially Halo 4[/b]. People don't like the game, get over it. Who cares what you saw on waypoint? [i]Oh wait![/i] [u]nobody.[/u]

Nobody cares a damn about what you think. Your opinion doesn't mean shit if you're some unique little snowflake. You and the other convoluted morons on Gaypoint are a minority when you view the whole picture.

Every word spewing out of your posts is irrelevant to me, because I enjoy Halo. I still win either way, do you not see how this works?

Now you're coming off as some sort of aspie. Have your opinion. It doesn't bother me or anybody. The sky is red and the grass is blue, but hey, who cares about the facts, right? I still win, in my own head at least.

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statistical data proving that halo 4 is unsuccessful in comparison to previous installments. does it prove that halo 4 is a bad or good game? no, because there is no universal truth for that kind of thing.

Statistical data and opinions that are concluded based on that data > m-muh opinion!!!!1!! Halo: Reach's data was enough to support that it was a bad Halo game, but still a fantastic video game. Halo 4, however, has a substantial amount of data to make the argument that it's lackluster in comparison to other AAA titles.

opinions based on experiences with a primary source are equally valid as any opinion that fits the views of the general populace, so i have no idea what you're trying to say. and cut the "maybe if i add 'm-muh' in my description it'll make it seem like i'm experienced in the field" sh1t. you mean considered lackluster by the general populace in comparison to other material. there is no inherent truth to whether or not the game is good or bad.

You have absolutely nothing to back up your opinion that Halo 4's so damn grand. However, I do. If people are playing it, we can come to the simple conclusion that people enjoy playing it. If they enjoy playing it, they must prefer it. If more people were playing other Halo games in the past, than more people preferred those games than Halo 4. Simple as that. Stop trying to over-complicate this so that you look like the intelligent one, dumbass.

Halo 4's MP is just uninteresting. Now that can be branded as a fact because everybody does feel that way about the game. There isn't anything captivating about the game whatsoever.

*generally considered uninteresting [and i'm still captivated by the single player portion of the game :P]

[quote]You have absolutely nothing to back up your opinion that Halo 4's so damn grand.[/quote] A) i don't think it's "damn grand." B) i certainly could, based on my own value judgement. [quote]However, I do.[/quote] excellent. all the power to you if you hate it. [quote]If people are playing it, we can come to the simple conclusion that people enjoy playing it. If they enjoy playing it, they must prefer it. If more people were playing other Halo games in the past, than more people preferred those games than Halo 4.[/quote] masterful. how does this prove that someone is wrong for enjoying halo 4? try explaining this to me without resorting to an argumentum ad populum. [quote]Simple as that. Stop trying to over-complicate this so that you look like the intelligent one, dumbass.[/quote] my posts are roughly the same length as yours, and i don't find them complicated at all. and oh look it's mr. ad hominem.

[quote]B) i certainly could, based on my own value judgement. [/quote]Nobody values your judgement, at least singularly. You're not a substantial figure in this community. You're just some random Reachtard. [quote]masterful. how does this prove that someone is wrong for enjoying halo 4? try explaining this to me without resorting to an argumentum ad populum.[/quote]Nobody's "wrong" for having an opinion. It doesn't mean that it's not a shitty opinion though. If I think Hitler did nothing wrong, should you be forced to accept, respect, and acknowledge my opinion? No, and I wouldn't expect you to. Majority opinion out-rules a single, separate one. Statistical data on user activity is the best set of numbers anyone in the video game industry has to assess user preference. [quote]argumentum ad populum.[/quote]I tip my fedora to you good sir, but you simply can't say, "Oh, you're using numbers based on what more users like? INVALIDATED!" [quote]my posts are roughly the same length as yours, and i don't find them complicated at all. and oh look it's mr. ad hominem.[/quote]You're babbling off and rambling, thinking you're making any sort of dent in my argument. It's not ad hominem if I'm actually presenting an argument to you AND insulting you for how retarded you actually are.

[quote]Nobody values your judgement, at least singularly. You're not a substantial figure in this community. You're just some random Reachtard.[/quote] so we've now shifted the debate to whether or not my judgement is valid to whether or not people care about it. [quote]Nobody's "wrong" for having an opinion.[/quote] nope. [quote]It doesn't mean that it's not a shitty opinion though.[/quote] that's your opinion. [quote]If I think Hitler did nothing wrong, should you be forced to accept, respect, and acknowledge my opinion?[/quote] yes, i should. of course i would disagree with it, strongly, but it's still your value judgement of the situation. not to mention that value judgement of an entertainment product is completely different from ethical scenarios. [quote]No, and I wouldn't expect you to.[/quote] then you're wrong. [quote]Majority opinion out-rules a single, separate one. Statistical data on user activity is the best set of numbers anyone in the video game industry has to assess user preference.[/quote] and argumentum ad populum. [quote]I tip my fedora to you good sir, but you simply can't say, "Oh, you're using numbers based on what more users like? INVALIDATED!"[/quote] why not? because it goes against your argument? i mean, argumentum ad populum is a recognized and valid fallacy to call someone out on... [quote]You're babbling off and rambling, thinking you're making any sort of dent in my argument.[/quote] actually, that's exactly what you did when you brought up the "complexity" of my arguments. [quote]It's not ad hominem if I'm actually presenting an argument to you AND insulting you for how retarded you actually are.[/quote] yes, it is. your argument then shifts to appeal to emotion instead of reason. stop trying apply truth determination to value judgement. it will never work.

Your post is fu­cking stupid, but there's one thing that caught my eye. [quote]i mean, argumentum ad populum is a recognized and valid fallacy to call someone out on...[/quote]In my opinion, it is not a fallacy, and can in fact be used as data. There. I just rekt you with your own bullshit. How does it feel?