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由Recon Number 54编辑：
6/3/2013 2:52:36 AM
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In my opinion, any American that allows themselves to be oppressed or accepts oppression isn't doing it (being an American) right.
Any American who thinks that they are oppressed and does something about it? They aren't oppressed, they are standing up for themselves and have my respect and support. Unless, after considering their claim, I find it to be baseless, then (to me) they're just whiny twats.
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由ash编辑： 7/21/2013 6:17:15 PMThis statement seems to assume that justice is inevitable. That karma will come to all of the oppressed and raise them up if they take control of their own destiny. But IMO, that's not the case. Scenario: A gay kid is bullied all through school and ends up killing himself/herself because they've not just lost their hope for the future, but also their will to live. They've had it beaten out of them. They have no friends, their family have perhaps even rejected them. The only experience they've had in life is negative. And hypothetically, rewind the years back to when there wasn't really a movement of solidarity for this kid to latch on to. They feel completely alone and isolated. They feel like if they tried to stand up and spread the word they would only attract more opposition and hostility. If Rosa Parks already had her fighting spirit beaten out of her, and didn't make a stand, she wouldn't lose my respect or support... Heroes who make a stand despite their hardship deserve a lot of respect of course. But so do the countless victims who are losing their battles or have lost all hope. In fact, victims need support more than heroes.
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And that is why I say they are "doing it right". Oppression occurs. It's a sad fact, but it is an undeniable one. This nation isn't supposed to allow it, this culture (at least in principle, but not always in practice) does not encourage or support it, but if the oppressed (individual or group) remain silent, then others may not be aware of the fact that someone is being oppressed. No one should tolerate the oppression of others, especially those who are at the receiving end. Anyone who silently endures it, while they are oppressed, they are also allowing and contributing to their state by accepting it. They have the right, the ability, and the society allows/encourages them to speak up, to refuse to accept the status-quo, and for them to voice their grievances to others. In other nations, in other cultures, oppression can be so endemic and so ingrained into that society that the oppressed are silent, (both willfully and due to force from others). That is not how US society is supposed to function. That is why I have the opinion that if someone is in the US and considers themselves to be oppressed and remains silent, I believe that they aren't "doing it right". "It" being that they are here, are a member of our society, and one thing that all are guaranteed is the rights to publicly express themselves and to seek redress in the courts. That is not the case everywhere, but it is here.
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I don't want to argue semantics, as honestly it's a bit ridiculous, but you said that those who stand up for themselves aren't oppressed. They are oppressed, the difference is they're fighting back. They still are, however, oppressed until they get equal rights, and are treated equally. I honestly don't believe any group of people being oppressed (actually oppressed) in America isn't vocal about it. At least I hope not.
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I see your point. My point was that the moment someone who is oppressed stands up, then they are taking the first step in ending their oppression, by fighting it, by refusing to let it define them, by not accepting it as inevitable. You're correct, semantics and my wording wasn't as accurate as I would have liked it to be.
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[quote]Semantics, the great leveller. =D[/quote] and the root cause of most "you're an idiot" replies on the Internet. Well, that and the fact that there ARE a lot of idiots on the Internet. Myself included apparently. If I can't proofread, I deserve to be called on it. Thanks for pointing out the poorly phrased statement. It does "sound stupid" and undermines what I was going for. But since it got pointed out by multiple people, I should probably leave it "as is" and let our discussion clarify my previous ineptitude.
