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4/9/2013 9:01:48 PM
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[quote]You won't believe in evolution but you would believe that some dude in the sky created everything on Earth because obviously it makes so much sense and has so much more evidence.[/quote] It's funny because I do believe in evolution. Do you have evidence that there is no God? And yes, [url=http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosophy/pages/content/hales/articlepdf/proveanegative.pdf]you can prove a negative.[/url] [quote] Some guy 2000 years ago claimed to be your savior and claims that he will be back, yet in 2000 years of human history we have not seen even a trace of him (of course, not before countless killings have been committed in his name), yet you still continue to believe.[/quote] When did he say that he'd be back in 2000 years? Never. [quote]You would believe in a number of fairy tales including a man on a giant ship with a bunch of animals floating on the sea during a giant flood, but an asteroid hitting the Earth and killing the dinosaurs is just impossible.[/quote] What Christian said that an asteroid never hit the Earth? They're obviously wrong. There are multiple craters that could have all had the potential to wipe out the dinosaurs. [quote]Yet they are the ones going around spouting their nonsense in people's faces,[/quote] A lot of the time, Atheists are the ones doing the exact same thing that they accuse Christians of. [quote]they are the ones who oppose homosexuals getting married, they are the ones who want to force their unreasonable beliefs into the public education system (intelligent design, prayers at school, etc.).[/quote] We oppose homosexuals getting married because our God commands it. It would be pure hypocrisy to not oppose it. However, I'm not going to vote against homosexual marriage because nowhere does the constitution state that they can't be married, and our entire country was founded on the idea of "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." If people think that being married to another person of the same gender will bring them happiness, then the constitution protects that. I still don't think that gay marriage is right, but I can't force my beliefs on others. People will do what they will do. I don't want intelligent design to be taught in schools the way that most people view it. I believe in intelligent design but not the way that the Bible says it was if taken literally. There are multiple reasons for me to believe that the Bible wasn't being exactly literal when it was talking about the world being made in 7 days. I believe it happened through evolution. Even if I'm wrong, I hardly believe that God will send me to hell for believing something different than what a lot of Christians do. Prayers in school... this has got to be one of the most stupid things I have ever encountered. I saw a kid a few weeks ago in my study hall reading the Bible, and everyone was looking at him and saying "dude, what are you doing?" They looked at him like he had the plague, however just a few days ago there was a Muslim reading the Quran with the exact same people in the exact same study hall, and nobody did anything. They didn't even pass a glance at him. So with that being said, why is it that atheists are so against people following their religion in school by reading a Bible or praying? It seems to me that it has a lot less to do with religion, and a lot more to do with prejudice against Christianity. How is someone praying in school affecting you in any way?
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  • [quote]It's funny because I do believe in evolution. Do you have evidence that there is no God? And yes, [url=http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosophy/pages/content/hales/articlepdf/proveanegative.pdf]you can prove a negative.[/url][/quote]Interesting read. But that's only a good argument against explicit atheism, which is quite the minority in the irreligious community.

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  • I have reason to believe that a large majority of atheists completely deny even the remote possibility that a god could exist. Nearly every single atheist I've ever talked to laughs at me when I suggest that a god exists.

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  • I'm going to tell you straight up that gnostic atheists are few and far between. If you suggest a god exists, I'm going to look at you like you're weird and probably say something, but I, and most atheists, are agnostic atheists.

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  • If you are agnostic, then why do you act like Christians are stupid when the very thing that we suggest, you consciously refuse to deny the possibility? If believing in a god is so stupid, why do you even believe that there's a chance that one could exist?

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  • Not believing in a god and denying the possibility of a god's existence are two completely different things.

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  • Right, so what I'm asking is why do you treat theists like they're stupid when you don't deny the possibility that they're right?

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  • There are a lot of things people claim that are possible. Some people claim that the Cubs will win the World Series sometime this year. Some people claim that China will take over all of the US's land due to the debt. Some people claim that North Korea will kick everyone's ass. I see religious people no different than these people. It's possible that they are right, but I think it's more likely that they are not right, and in my experience, they fail when trying to justify what they think is right.

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  • I was going to make a very well-thought reply to this thread, but you said everything perfectly. Well done, well done.

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  • Your post...I like it. However... [quote]Even if I'm wrong, I hardly believe that God will send me to hell for believing something different than what a lot of Christians do.[/quote]He will not, if you believe that Jesus is your savior. Besides, once we're with Him he can finally show us the truth about all those things we wonder about :)

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  • Yeah he's not going to send you to hell for making an incorrect assumption (although evolution is pretty well proven). But still if we're wrong I don't think that he'll send me to hell for it.

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