I see your point.

i never said religion doesnt lead to horrible things. in far too many times it does, but people focus too much on all the bad things religion has brought us while ignoring all the good things its given us.

People would become savages. N-azi Germany and Communism in general are good examples what happens when people abandon all their religion related values.

Naw man, that aint right.

and the Islamic people kept and recorded a lot of scientific stuff. We owe much of our world today to them. And I remember a friend of mine told me that when countries IQ's get higher, religion gets smaller

the dark ages were started by barbarians sacking roman cities and burning down a great deal of the libraries. the catholic church, however, made a large attempt to save many of the documents and later became the most reliable place for people to become educated and literate allowing them to carry out future scientific research while being able to write down their findings. if the church wasn't there many of the accounts of roman and Greek historians as well medical knowledge, philosophical writings and poetry would have been lost in western Europe. as for mao zedong, yeah a lot of it was due to famine but he also waged genocide against many of chinas citizens, particularly the intellectuals.