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1/18/2013 4:43:18 PM
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Vegans abort plants, ergo, veganism is cold-blooded murder.
Related to that same selfishness and lack of moral justification regarding the unborn mentioned by RT [url=http://www.bungie.net/en-US/View/community/Forum/Post?id=43623501&path=1]here[/url], is that of the vegan.[quote]How can one morally justify not giving life a chance to occur?[/quote]
"Your body isn't a graveyard?" I disagree.
[quote]Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, as well as an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of sentient animals. A follower of veganism is known as a vegan.
Distinctions are sometimes made between different categories of veganism. Dietary vegans (or strict vegetarians) refrain from consuming animal products, not only meat and fish but, in contrast to ovo-lacto vegetarians, also eggs, dairy products and other animal-derived substances. The term ethical vegan is often applied to those who not only follow a vegan diet, but extend the vegan philosophy into other areas of their lives, and oppose the use of animals or animal products for any purpose. Another term used is environmental veganism, which refers to the rejection of animal products on the premise that the harvesting or industrial farming of animals is environmentally damaging and unsustainable.[/quote]
"Ethical vegan": how laughable! It is clear that vegans are opposed to harming living things in any way, for selfish gain... or is it? They disallow the mistreatment and murder of innocent animals, but will not vegans eat seeds, nuts, and berries, the vessels through which plants reproduce and bring new life? Are vegans not preventing that new life by eating the plants' unborn offspring? How is that not aborting nature's most docile and beautiful form of life?
Don't give me that crap about how plants can't think and feel. It's just that we haven't found a way to communicate with them yet. You wait until Science finds a way. Then, you will have to answer for your crimes, vegans. Think about THAT, the next time you masticate your kalamata and roasted red pepper tapenade.
~Bob
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1 回复To each his own, but when a Vegan starts preaching to me and tells me I'm in the wrong for eating meat or using animal products, it gets me all wound up. Well, if we never ate meat nor use animal products, we wouldn't be the dominant species in the animal kingdom. So next time a Vegan preaches, ask them if they enjoy being at the top of the food chain and not a part of it.
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5 回复Those of you saying plants are "intelligent" are [i]very[/i] wrong. They have absolutely [i]no[/i] thinking apparatus and [i]no[/i] decision making of any kind. Plants simply grow in response to stimuli. Many simpler animals are likely the same. I think some vegans are a little over the top, but the sentience argument is totally valid.
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2 回复由Cobravert编辑： 1/18/2013 4:55:01 PM
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3 回复Being honest here, I always found that vegen stuff on animals utter crap. Plants are alive as much as the next critter, and are intelligent in their own unique way. I can see where they are coming from, and let's face it, the meat we eat isn't treated well before it get's turned into eatables. But this is a fact of life, we need energy to survive, and we have no way of getting it without killing something. If you try to make the most of what you kill and use as much as you can, without feeling proud of killing it, then it's all right to do so.
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2 回复由RighteousTyrant编辑： 1/18/2013 5:03:49 PMVeganism is totally unethical. Few plants have ever harmed anyone, and the ones that do, vegans don't eat (AFAIK). And in fact, they are one of the few forms of life that survive by creating (via photosynthesis), rather than destroying as animals universally do (via ingestion and digestion). See, the animals -- both herbivores and carnivores -- are guilty of death and destruction, so we are simply doing unto them as they've done unto others, and this is equitable. Few plants in this world are guilty of the same, so to claim their life to support our own is morally unjustifiable.
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