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7/10/2025 7:05:35 PM
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Recuperation nerf

I understand that you want to push the health stat but only 15 healing for using an entire mod slot is crazy. It will be entirely unnoticeable and just a waste of a slot. Could you think of increasing the amount to somewhere around 30. This still gives the health stat a good reason to exist but also gives you worth for building into it.

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  • Soooo...we're using Better Already then?

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  • 由Jedi K47编辑: 7/12/2025 4:37:50 AM
    This recupe nerf reminds me of when Bungie nerfed the Protective Light mod to the ground. They killed it and gave the same reason that 'everybody is using it/ its a must have in build crafting' so its got to die. The player base adapted and learned to survive without it anyway, we always do..until we just quit playing altogether, different story for another time though. Anyone remember when they nerfed Orbs or Power to the ground, tried to get us to build craft into Elemental Wells, we adapted..then they nerfed Wells and now we are back to Orbs lol. Good times

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    • 由The-IIID-Emp1r3编辑: 7/12/2025 2:41:16 PM
      Isn't it wonderful how bungie ALWAYS burns the game to the ground everytime a new raid/dungeon is about to come out? Why else would they feel the need to nerf us all back down to 0 PowerLevel? Nerf everything else etc? Because, RAID/DUNGEON RACE, oh that precious little raid/dungeon race for the top 5% players and streamers etc. That has been the worst thing that's ever happened to destiny, period. I am seriously tired of this constant "raid/dungeon gonna come out -> nerf nerf nerfs for raid/dungeon race -> let's see how these good top % players & content creators do". It's all so tiring maaaaan ._. Destiny used to be great, they need to get rid of champions (enemies that somehow have abilities we can't use despite we using Darkness too lmao), get RID of raid races (& now dungeon races), game needs to go back to it's roots, back to basics. Back to absurd "fun"

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    • Doesn’t a 100 health stat give you +75 on it?

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    • 由SolarReaper编辑: 7/11/2025 7:13:32 AM
      Ah yes, I see my plans to play strand and stasis builds on my hunter went to f... themselves. So Im stuck on void again in a solar/stasis/strand season. I really hope Sony just guts them like a fish at this point.

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      • I don’t know why people complain about it, we will all get 100 res, and the new health stats is gonna play the role of Recuperation mode, so it’s really freeing up space for other mods in my opinion.

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      • The font mod nerf is a kick in the ephemeral 🥜s

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        • I love how every week we learn something new and go "Why are we nerfing this important piece of build crafting?" then someone goes "Well if you build into it you'll get the old effects!" and now there's like 4 of these. So we need to build into 4 stats to get our old effects. Which if I remember we can only build into 2 with the rest being kinda lost especially when armor will have types preventing certain combinations. We're getting hit in a bunch of spots and told we can get it back if we build into a specific stat but then told we need all of them to get to our previous level of power.

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          • All this bullshit will be reversed in a matter of weeks or it will finally kill the game.

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            • Any positives at all to this game anymore? All I see is negative feedback from everyone aprt from the 5 or 6 people who blow there beans at the game who defend every thing bungie does ahhahaha.

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              • 由ForeverLaxx编辑: 7/11/2025 1:57:09 PM
                It's just forcing a stat tax for Health. You need roughly 80 points in Health for 55 healing per orb, so with the mod slotted, you're back to 70. If you go fully into Health, you get 70 by default so the mod is just extra healing at that point. Everything is being changed so that you have to build into things we used to get "for free," stripping away that power fantasy and crippling any build that isn't overly specialized in whatever area it needs to be for the content you're playing. It's not explained well at all and assumes you've been keeping up with all of the upcoming updates, which is a big ask considering they're basically running most of their remaining players away from the game with each new "sneak peek." TL;DR: as long as you have 80 Health, you'll have the old values with the mod slotted. EDIT: This also seems like another nerf meant to clip PvP and the Reaper mod, but they don't want to say that out loud.

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              • 由JD编辑: 7/11/2025 5:04:08 PM
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                Being that you pick up multiple orbs at once I don’t even think you’ll notice this unless literally one orb is on the ground. Idk why they’re nerfing literally everything.

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              • Bungie gonna find just cause you change the number from 100 to 200 you still have to balance the 30% stat increase armor charge and other mods already give. 🤣

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              • 由THEREALLONEWOLFx编辑: 7/10/2025 11:46:03 PM
                Don't forget Day 1 known issues for Edge of Nerfs isn't even available yet for us. Can't wait for that! Also, by nerfing recuperation Bungie inherently buffed the Heal clip perk.

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                • How the tables have turned. It used to be us chasing dregs around rocks trying to kill them... It'll be the dregs doing the chasing now.🤣

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                • I think it's pretty bad considering the subclasses who needed that mod the most are now getting a stat tax in the new system And these subclasses without built-in healing were already considered pretty bad. Like, does Broodweaver really need a Health stat tax just so it can not get shredded?

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                  • 15 health is a str8 kick in the privy and a wound to the stones

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                  • tbf i'm surprised they didn't delete the mod, still not going to use the useless health stat

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                    • So, what, they're even sunsetting mods now? I'm not even feeling the urge to try this game after the changes, let alone stick with it

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                    • 由Kiro - 13编辑: 7/11/2025 11:21:58 AM
                      That is because if you read all the changes the health stat will recover HP when picking up orbs of light when invested past 100. Or simply put in "patch note" format: [i]•Recuperation will be folded into the Health stat when exceeding 100. •The Recuperation mod will have a deprecated value(15 down from 70). [/i] Too be fair Bungie did a poor job explaining this. But they are also in a vicarious position where they do not know their a[b]s[/b]s from their elbow at the moment. This is because some of the player base has a more complete understanding of systems then any one currently working at Bungie due to lay-offs.

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                      • They explained it poorly. Just build into the health stat.

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                        • 由xbroggiex编辑: 7/11/2025 12:11:31 AM
                          Yeah, I think they should've put it down to 30 instead as well. You get 17.5hp per orb from the health stat at 25 which is essentially the default when you have your armor masterworked. So I think most people are just going to replace it with Better Already. I expect a massive uptick in builds that utilize things that heal you like Banner of War or Restoration. As for Stasis well that got nerfed again I guess with shatter no longer doing unstoppables and now the only way to reliably get healing also being nerfed.

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                        • I ran Better Already already? 🤔

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                        • They said they’ll be monitoring its impact and adjust accordingly. Invest in the health stat if you’re absolutely crutching on recuperation????

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                          • Honestly, I thought they were going to get rid of the mod completely. This to me is a win. The Health stat is not really something we can afford to put stats into but we need as much benefit as we can get from it. This takes away some of that. The Health stat will give .7 HP back on orb pick up for every stat point you put into Health. This caps at 70 HP at 100-200 stat. With Masterworked armor, you will have a minimum of 25 Health stat. That will give 18 HP on orb pickup +15 for Recuperation for 33. If that is not enough, put some more stats into or consider using a Font Mod. Of course the Font will only work when you have armor charges.

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                            • +15 You'll get healing from orbs at default.

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