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My messenger takes sh[b]i[/b]ts on Elsie’s.
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  • Nah Elsie’s has zen moment

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  • Rapid hit isn’t a bad replacement…

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  • For sure. Rapid hit also gives you some reload help. Zen moment provides more potent anti flinch though

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  • It’s really just up to what you can pair it with imo. Being able to pair Conditional with Elsie’s definitely makes it a better pick.

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  • Hmm I feel the handling nerf on conditional was pretty noticeable and also you don’t see wells and bubbles as often so it’s not that vital to be able to counter it. Chaperone is also a great pairing. I do prefer using compass rose, duality or cloudstrike though

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  • Ehhh I can’t get away from Felwinters and OG Seraph shotgun for some reason and fiend over the exotic 140s… When I do use 340s though I just can’t seem to get away from NTTE. But if I had to rock a legendary Messenger is my go to.. something about Rapit hit headseeker just feels right.

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  • The messenger model and feel is quite nice. The sight is a little obstructive compared to Elsie’s but the wildcard origin trait comes in handy from time to time. No time feels very clean and fast and snappy to me. The sight is also quite open and I like the reticle. Overall it’s a nice feeling gun. Elsie’s doesn’t feel as good to me and idk why even though the gun model is identical to no time. I still can’t deny I hit the most 2 bursts with it. Do you main ace ?

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  • Yea. Something about it keeps it glued to my primary slot. That and Hawkmoon. My Zen moment Elsie’s came with horrible everything else so I use my keep away headseeker one instead cause I got tired of farming… but it’s hard for me to tell which one gives me the most consistent 2 burst… and that wild card is definitely clutch at times.

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  • To me keep away feels pretty mid compared to zen moment. If you are fiending for range that hard I would just go full bore and use zen moment to make up for lack of stability. I really dislike hawkmoon, the sights are so large compared to rose which are clean and un obstructed. I probably just need to get used to it.

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  • If I could get a good zen moment roll I would say something but yea 😅 Reload master works. Not ricochets or high cal. Shitty barrels… Hawkmoon to me is the only gun that’s snappier and more consistent than Rose. So if you can waste the exotic slot and go without the lightweight frame you’re set. People overlook just for good it is with the catalyst giving you extra range as you land crits. The right roll is just amazing.

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  • The exotic perk is very useful but I just can’t get over the model and the sights. I also constantly feel like I run out of bullets. I am probably used to my slideshot rose which reloads the gun for me as I reposition. The lightweight bonus feels so good since it just helps you feel faster. Especially on hunter you can get away with 8 mobility. And on Titan I like to have at least 5 mobility so rose helps it get up to 7.

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  • I have both and slightly prefer messenger. That said, the difference is minimal and both are great.

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