[quote]Pulses feel like trash now to me, and this is coming from a pulse user.[/quote] I appreciate you responding on topic. I understand. That's fair. It's probably just elisies and messenger that I mean. With the appropriate rolls. I think they should require slightly more effort in their two burst. To see more diversity in pulse rifles. I feel only die to those two and if the person is lagging, it's near instant. But I also know some people have played with deterministic recoil and can't settle on counter balance or targeting for certain rolls they have gotten. I don't want them ruined. I know autos, hc, and pulses have contenders. I don't ask for them to be butchered. Sorry you're not enjoying them as much. Thank you for your insight. I edited my original post to stress I don't want them destroyed.

It’s all good man. I don’t particularly know what it is, but every pulse I use these days just seems to feel off, including 340s to me. They just seem to lose out to basically everything these days to me. I’ve had similar issues with using MIDA as well. Just lose to everything at range, including autos, which really get me tilted when that happens. Maybe it’s some change that they did during Neomuna DLC or something (took that year off, so I don’t know), but they just feel very underwhelming now to me. Since they are my primary weapons of choice in crucible, it’s just been insufferable playing it as of late. You could very well be right, and a tweak might be needed. I’m really just giving my personal experiences as of late with the weapon class.

[quote]It’s all good man. I don’t particularly know what it is, but every pulse I use these days just seems to feel off, including 340s to me. They just seem to lose out to basically everything these days to me. I’ve had similar issues with using MIDA as well. Just lose to everything at range, including autos, which really get me tilted when that happens. Maybe it’s some change that they did during Neomuna DLC or something (took that year off, so I don’t know), but they just feel very underwhelming now to me. Since they are my primary weapons of choice in crucible, it’s just been insufferable playing it as of late. You could very well be right, and a tweak might be needed. I’m really just giving my personal experiences as of late with the weapon class.[/quote] I haven't tried my Elsie's enough to dismiss your experience. I didn't quite get the roll I wanted so I threw it in the vault and didn't want to judge on a non god roll. I use Messenger even though it's not the "meta" in the same way. I know that Autos have no problem contending and Rose is doing just fine if you can get that proper roll. I don't want them touched too much, just a little tweak. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm going to try Elsie's and I'll change the post if it feels like crap.

If I remember correctly the whole issue behind 340's rn is headseeker. It makes them more forgiving and it grants a bit of aim assist making landing the rest as precision hits easier.