You don’t use Young Ahamkaras Spine in PVE, stop lying. They’re obviously incredibly strong in PVP and that’s why they’re getting nerfed. Free kills with minimal investment (much like AWs). If I had a dollar for every hunter I’ve seen in PVE using YAS, I’d have $0.50 (for everyone that says they use them in PVE all the time). Edit: I genuinely forgot I posted this lol. Bungie said a long time ago they’re trying to cut back on ability reliance/uptime including PVE, hence the HOIL nerf back when. Does it suck? Yes. Is it warranted? Yes. Do hunters have significantly better PVE options? Absolutely.