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原先发布于: Shatter Dmg Too Much?
1/5/2021 10:37:51 AM
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It's the whisper of fissure fragment. It needs to have reduced effectiveness. But we can't discuss that cause several imbeciles who stream their "content" placed the blame entirely at the feet of Shatterdive. So this community has it's head shoved so far up its ass.
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  • 100% the fragment adding increased range and damage on things being shattered 🤷🏼‍♂️. But it’s the dive’s fault right? Best is when you throw your nade and a guy on the other team shoots the fragments and kills 2-3 people on their one team and you get the kill credit 😂. I just se the nade more for zone control and to block off points on maps anyways 🤷🏼‍♂️

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  • 由Bore编辑: 1/5/2021 4:15:31 PM
    [quote]It's the whisper of fissure fragment. It needs to have reduced effectiveness. But we can't discuss that cause several imbeciles who stream their "content" placed the blame entirely at the feet of Shatterdive. So this community has it's head shoved so far up its ass.[/quote] You see the same people complaining about shatterdive defending the titan slide. “It’s harder to use” https://xboxclips.co/degradingbore/d43f9fcf-8537-42fc-a3f8-9e3c0132f9c5

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  • I never said it was harder to use, I just said you don’t have the same precision when breaking crystal’s when using Titan compared to hunter, which is true. Titan slide should get an extra second on its slide to match that of top tree dawn. Because the movement is amazing. Also I tried loading your vid like 5 times and it wasn’t going, idk why.

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  • [quote]I never said it was harder to use, I just said you don’t have the same precision when breaking crystal’s when using Titan compared to hunter, which is true. Titan slide should get an extra second on its slide to match that of top tree dawn. Because the movement is amazing. Also I tried loading your vid like 5 times and it wasn’t going, idk why.[/quote] You’re replying to the post I made over an hour ago...

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  • LMAO I’m tired okay

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  • Starter combo, it’s dumb on both. Even if one is faster to pull off.

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  • [quote]Starter combo, it’s dumb on both. Even if one is faster to pull off.[/quote] The fragment makes shatter kills easy for all classes.

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  • 由Facelauss编辑: 1/5/2021 5:01:04 PM
    That’s what I said... I just said one was faster to do. Also https://youtu.be/TpKDNoA_f7U CANT do that on Titan js.

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  • [quote]That’s what I said... I just said one was faster to do. Also https://youtu.be/TpKDNoA_f7U CANT do that on Titan js.[/quote] You can though. You can also do that using a special nade launcher to shatter them.

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  • 由Facelauss编辑: 1/5/2021 5:06:35 PM
    Okay, it was 1 nade three people, barely moved at all, and no weapons used at all. And now you’re saying it’s the same but you just got to get heavy ammo and use it? That’s not the same. Hence why I think dive needs at least another second on its cooldown.

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  • [quote]Okay, it was 1 nade three people, barely moved at all, and no weapons used at all. And now you’re saying it’s the same but you just got to get heavy ammo and use it? That’s not the same. Hence why I think dive needs at least another second on its cooldown.[/quote] You don’t need heavy. The titan slide would also have killed them all and a special nade launcher would allow you to do it at range. Without whisper of fissures, that wouldn’t have happened. Hence why whisper of fissures needs a nerf.

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  • 由Facelauss编辑: 1/5/2021 5:13:46 PM
    I agree that the fragment needs a nerf, I feel like I already said that but maybe I didn’t. Alright I’ll adjust my point, no heavy, still no weapons of any sort were used at all. A Titan would have broke the entire thing in one slide, you can’t do it with the same precision as a hunter can. That’s all I was saying, hence the 1-2s longer cooldown suggestion.

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  • [quote]I agree that the fragment needs a nerf, I feel like I already said that but maybe I didn’t. Alright I’ll adjust my point, no heavy, still no weapons of any sort were used at all. A Titan would have broke the entire thing in one slide, you can’t do it with the same precision as a hunter can. That’s all I was saying, hence the 1-2s longer cooldown suggestion.[/quote] You don’t need heavy. A special grenade launcher uses special ammo. You could also use a bow which uses primary. The titan slide will not break all of them unless you slide into the middle. If you dive into the middle, it will also shatter all of them. There is no reason to nerf the dive along with the whisper of fissures fragment.

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  • 由Facelauss编辑: 1/5/2021 5:26:26 PM
    Have you used dive? Did you know it gives damage resistance? It’s actually insane up close and it is spamable and when I’ve used it, it feels like playing on easy mode. Literally won things I shouldn’t have using it (no grenade, not talking about the combo) Also saying hey if you use a weapon it’ll be the same as this thing that doesn’t use any, doesn’t make them equal.

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  • [quote]Have you used dive? Did you know it gives damage resistance? It’s actually insane up close and it is spamable and when I’ve used it, it feels like playing on easy mode. Literally won things I shouldn’t have using it (no grenade, not talking about the combo) Also saying hey if you use a weapon it’ll be the same as this thing that doesn’t use any, doesn’t make them equal.[/quote] It give damage resistance during dive, not at the end when it hits the ground. Compare it to the Icarus dash and titan slide. It doesn’t do anything that good without the shatter. The whisper of fissures fragment allows for ice walls to be OP with any ability or weapon able to shatter them.

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  • It’s great for movement, if you don’t realize that, there’s no point in furthering this discussion.

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  • [quote]It’s great for movement, if you don’t realize that, there’s no point in furthering this discussion.[/quote] Compared to dodge, Icarus dash and the new titan slide, it isn’t. If you think it’s “movement” is too strong then you got a few screws loose.

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  • [quote][quote]It’s great for movement, if you don’t realize that, there’s no point in furthering this discussion.[/quote] Compared to dodge, Icarus dash and the new titan slide, it isn’t. If you think it’s “movement” is too strong then you got a few screws loose.[/quote] I would have to concur. It's not the greatest "movement" ability out of the bunch. Especially when considering the animation traps you in the landing position long enough for any capable player to exploit and kill you. But it is invaluable for getting out of the air after you stupidly expended your double jump or there's threat of a sniper and you decided to jump??? But it [u]AND THE SLIDE[/u] are extremely lethal [u]WHEN PAIRED[/u] with the [b]FRAGMENT[/b] Whisper of Fissure. The range is too effective for that level of damage and is easily exploitable with every grenade charge.

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  • This place has always been ripe with bias. There's a handful of consistent forum go-ers that look at anything in this game with objectivity.

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