They feel great and are a lot of fun. Other weapons need to be brought up. Probably back to a hand cannon meta soon anyway so ....meh.

I'd rather see a hand cannon range buff than an 600 RPM auto damage nerf. Yes, they're strong, but they need to be strong to compete against the easier to use, peek shooting hand cannons. I'd love to see hand cannons go back to the higher range territory like they were in Forsaken. That way, 600 RPM autos will have the mid range advantage with their higher damage output, but hand cannons will be better from further out, putting them into the longer range territories of pulse rifles.

OMG so ignorant! 600 RPM AUTOS are NOT OP!!! INFACT they need a BUFF!! Auto rifles(the most challenging weapons to use!!) need to be able to 1 tap anyone to the body in PvP. As they are now, they can only outgun every weapon in the game at all ranges!! They need to be stronger so I can shoot 1 enemy and the entire enemy team disconnects!!!!!

[quote]Are more than likely the same exact people who are crutching on those 600rpm auto rifles.[/quote] No different from HCs last meta. Metas shift.

I mean... I use a variety of things, including them and they are slightly overturned, but not "holy shit, this breaks the entire sandbox!" Problem is controller is more or less railroaded into the playstyle that favors ARs, due to low sensitivity and bad overall implimentation of aiming controls limiting mobile play-styles out of a lot of viability. The issue more lies there and with bad, overaggressive play against what are defensive playing weapons screwing people over, rather than the guns themselves. Are 600s overtuned? Yes, slightly, but another massive issue is that 720s don't have enough range to 100% compete as a mid-range weapon, 360s don't output enough damage, and 450s are the overall worst primaries in the game, since they do literally nothing well, unlike bows and 180 HCs/Scouts. You have summoned me

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Lol at all the people thinking Hand Cannons are in the same skill range as auto rifles 🥴 Last I checked, you can't pre fire 60 rounds around a corner with a Hand Cannon 😂

As someone that almost only plays autorifle I'd say a little range nerf is justified.

Just like those that have been using 150’s for over a year.