Stinks, doesnt it? Joe is long gone and Chris isn't even working on Destiny right now. I'm no fortune teller but the way things have gone this year doesn't bring me a lot of hope for the future. [i]Usually[/i], Fall expansions start strong then gradually drop off until the next calendar year. Whats sad is that you can't even make a decision from the trailers we see because of how well they've gotten at making trash look like treasure. That said, I will never again pre-order anything with Destiny stamped on it. I've had my fun but the cycle of BS that comes over and over is becoming tiresome.