Ok. So there is 1 way to win Destiny 2 PvP games: teamshotting. Teamshotting is the lowest form of applied player skill that everyone can muster. Even an retarded ape could teamshot if you gave it a controller. Ergo: Destiny 2 PvP does not need skill to be played. Animals and therefore humans play to simulate possible real world situations to have experience if such a situation should occur and therefore up their biological fitness levels. They would more likely survive than individuals who did not simulate such a situation beforehand. Teamshotting needs no simulation. It is already built in to anyone. So there is no value in playing Destiny 2, not if you want to become a better player. If you are what is commonly called salty and want to teamshot others as a team of 4 because maybe you cannot beat them in 1v1s, then you can get some joy out of Destiny 2 pvp. But who wants to be that kind of person?