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5/6/2017 10:50:37 PM
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That have no reason to ally with us dear, they want the traveller, why help us get it back? They are more likely to attack us when we are week. But it seems to be up to Uldren now
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[quote]That have no reason to ally with us dear[/quote] Hold that thought. [quote]they want the traveller[/quote] Ahh, so they do have a reason. Also: Very weak, and almost scattered - they could use our help. Variks - a fallen on our side? Already happened. And his role could easily unite others. SIVA - we're already using some of their technology. Last but not least - it's simply beneficial to both of us. There is no way Eliksni can win alone - they almost have to join with us.
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Siva is our technology dear, and why side with the ones who stole your god to fight the ones who stole it again? You don't just side with the ones who have killed your and murdered your people for centuries over a few weeks. Our fued is deep, the Fallen can't be trusted and they think the same of us
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[quote]Siva is our technology dear[/quote] We invented it, but it isn't ours. [quote]and why side with the ones who stole your god to fight the ones who stole it again? You don't just side with the ones who have killed your and murdered your people for centuries over a few weeks.[/quote] 1. It's not a few weeks. 2. That's exactly what happens. All the time. [quote]Our fued is deep, the Fallen can't be trusted and they think the same of us[/quote] To quote Variks - "all that are fallen are not lost." We can easily use him as a way to get the fallen on our side.
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由Haffoc编辑： 5/7/2017 11:13:01 AMI'll quote Skollas [quote]And remember that we were denied! Remember the City of the Death of Children, the City That Docks, which claimed for itself the Great Machine that might have saved us. Remember the City that even now sends its ghouls to murder our Primes, starve our ether, and leave our young to die gasping. Curse that City and its name. The curse is just.[/quote] As for SIVA, it's human technology and falls under the domain of Rasputin. The Fallen barely understood what they had discovered. It certainly isn't Fallen technology.
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由Haffoc编辑： 5/7/2017 11:10:05 AMUldren never liked Guardians, and after what happened in TTK has even more reason to hate us. As for the Fallen, I'll quote Skolas [quote]And remember that we were denied! Remember the City of the Death of Children, the City That Docks, which claimed for itself the Great Machine that might have saved us. Remember the City that even now sends its ghouls to murder our Primes, starve our ether, and leave our young to die gasping. Curse that City and its name. The curse is just.[/quote]
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We can make a pretty good guess about his view, considering he doesn't like Guardians. That her involvement in our affairs led to her death really isn't going to convince him to form an alliance with the Vanguard. Instead of seeking out his own people or even Guardians, he has instead looked to take over the Fallen. He's not doing that so that he can help the very people that lead to his sister's death.
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由Ostensibly编辑： 5/7/2017 4:23:20 PMAnd yet, he's doing what the Queen wants. He puts her before even his own feelings. At the very least, he's consolidating power to rebuild the Reef or use the Fallen to fight any Cabal who come to the Reef. Her power and influence has lasted beyond her "death." Also, every other guardian in the Destiny 2 reveal trailer have the Queen's sigil worn prominently on their armor.
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We really don't know the Queen's goal, but Bungie has already said that when she returns she will be more like how they originally envisioned her - as a true pirate Queen. She is serving a power we know nothing about, for goals we can not guess at.
