Thats what I'm talking about. I concur and agree with you, and never liked Dead Orbit's endgame philosophy myself. But for the sake of argument, do they not have the optimistic, if ever unrealistic, view that we can harness the Light needed to push back the Darkness with or without the Traveler at hand? Arach Ja-whatever at the Tower himself says he lost faith in the Traveler (and in my opinion is saying) that we need to take it upon ourselves to be strong enough to fight the Darkness with our Light - with or without the Great White Spaceball. I always just assumed they wanted to leave not only by necessity, but also out of choice and with utmost force and full-frontal Light as an offensive force to push them out to the stars an etc. beyond rather than just taking off blindly into space