*AFTER* the bans. You said it yourself People are posting names before bungie evaluates the action and deems it bannable. People are judging that for themselves with only their side of the story. Bungoe sees both sides and bans fairly.

[quote]bans fairly[/quote] they don't ban at all. That's the problem.

After a ban i have no problem with. Starting witch hunts is why the rule is there in the first place.

Well I have no doubt people intentionally alter their connection in this game and attempt to alter others connection. I've seen it. When it comes down to it...bungie does not do anywhere near enough to enforce thier servers. If they enforced their servers the way they enforced and moderated these forums we wouldnt have half of these issues.

We all know people cheat lol lets be real here but for red bar warriors I've literally messaged countless people lagging, in a lot of cases it's just people who can't afford amazing Internet, amazing Internet isn't available where they live like I'm in that situation. But I did have 3 people flat out admit they were cheating and since bungie or Microsoft are sooo slow if they even do anything to ban you I guess they didn't give a shit

You should be locked out of competitive pvp if you can't afford good internet. Sorry but everyone else shouldn't have to suffer because you're from Mexico and had to make a router out of a burrito and tinfoil.

Exactly. If bungie released a weekly list of bans for cheating people would be happy.