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由Retro_Spective编辑：
4/26/2016 3:31:23 PM
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Should two/three summons be allowed in DS3 PvE?
Having done a good amount of jolly cooperation in Dark Souls 3. It has come to my attention that a huge amount of players scrub it up, summon two, even three players for a simple boss fight.
I personally feel this kills the whole point of Dark Souls, that's its challenging gameplay. I've been summoned into other players games, watched in disgust as they don't even attempt to hit the boss.
One summon should be more than enough for any boss fight in Dark Souls 3. How do you feel about this guys and is more than one summon really necessary?
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Personally I think having summons can make boss fights harder. Souls of cinder is significantly harder if you have more than 2 summons. His damage output and absorption are buffed ridiculously and the fight becomes extended especially if summons are killed mid fight. That being said the only boss I needed summons for was the nameless King. Having someone to take agro while you heal is invaluable. His combos are so punishing with damage. One slip up on dodge timing and you're reduced to almost no health.
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1 回复由StookeyBoy编辑： 4/27/2016 10:23:41 AMI always felt that summons should be a last resort, like if you truly cannot beat a boss. It makes me sad seeing a few of my friends carry a newbie through all the encounters. It really does ruin the experience. But to me, you haven't truly beat a boss unless you have defeated him alone.
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由Flailing_Weasel编辑： 4/26/2016 5:38:55 PMIf you want to make it as hard as possible on yourself that's fine. If you want all the extra help you can get that's fine too. Some people may not be able to progress the game without that kind of help, which is a shame because it has such amazing atmosphere and design. I love From Softs work too much to want it closed off over something so petty as making it "too easy". Just seems petty to me.
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It's fine. It is an easy mode button true, but it also allows you to play with multiple friends, and let's face it even 2 man is easy mode for nearly every boss. Co-op is there for new players or those who want a less rage inducing experience and there's nothing wrong with that.
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1 回复>Jolly cooperation >Scrub for summoning Pick one. Just let people play how they want. Personally, I think phantoms do better as secondary objectives during invasions if you know what I mean
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2 回复I didnt have much trouble with pve either. I also dont think it been dumbed down for casuals. That line of thinking is just cringeworthy. It more likely that we're well versed in the dark souls forum. This is the third game, 4th if you count bloodborne. I see several posts a day about how new players are stuck on vordt or ever ludex gundyr.
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5 回复If players want summons to help them its their choice, they can play the game the way they like, it does not affect my playtrough in a negative way so why would I care? I actualy play the game mostly ofline because it performs a bit better, but I don't care what other players do and IMO so should you.
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Yes, it's perfectly fine. That being said, I personally don't think you should summon unless you've tried & failed 50 times over. When you die 50 times over with 1 phantom, summon 2. [b]HOWEVER[/b], don't just accept this help without trying to better yourself. We blessed by the Sun don't wish to carry you, we wish for you to realize your true potential! \[T]/
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3 回复Nameless king was hard even with 1 summon. On principle, though, I'm gonna have to solo him on my NG+ run. That will take a few tries, I imagine.
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1 回复I solo'd my first play through. But now I don't mind. I've beaten every boss on my own so teaming up is just for a bit of fun. Plus although it makes it easier as it loses agro so you can heal, it also gets more health to help counter it a little bit. I do think people should beat bosses on there own atleast once though but that's just me.
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2 回复Haha, the guy was making a parody for all the people saying, "dark souls needs a easy mode." But, I do see the issue with what you're saying. All I can say is, people play how they want. You can't change that.
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由Cinders-Shadow编辑： 4/26/2016 5:45:13 PMPersonally I solo. But ugh... how does other people summoning make my game worse? It doesnt... Let people enjoy their game. Game is still difficult solo, so play solo. The only way that mass summoning really effects you, is if you invade. Which when I do, I expect at least a 3 on 1
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3 回复I will admit I had 2 summons for ornstein and Smough because I had my arse handed to me one too many times.
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