So as far as the physical discipline. If it's true ignorance in what way would you punish them? Killing someone on accident is still punishable, but not as severely as intentional murder.

I needed it for medical reasons.

I agree with 96% of what you said. [spoiler]And yes I did calculate it. Don't judge me. I mean you have a right to, but I'd prefer if you just let me have my moment.[/spoiler] I have to disagree with your point on physical discipline but I'd rather not argue on it (and I'm sure you'd rather not argue as well) so I'm going to leave it at that.

I agree

I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. There is definitely a base for an argument that it isn't a baby at earlier points, but there are certain points in development that it is definitely a baby in the womb.

[quote]In principle, abortions are acceptable at any point Circumcision is a barbaric practice practised and supported by the ignorant and probably amoral American nationalism/patriotism is as fervent an ideology as in Germany during the thirties and forties Morality is relativistic in that a given morality is merely the overwhelming consensus at any given time Religion, Christianity in particular, has far too much influence on public policy today Capital punishment is a symptom of an inherently barbaric society that yearns for violence Anonymous Internet forums, especially game forums, are hotbeds for [i]misogyny[/i] and [i]misogynists[/i] Healthy living (dieting, proper exercise, sexual education, et cetera...) needs to be a core unit in school People should need to pass a competency test in order to vote in elections Western society/societies are soaked in violent, graphic material, primarily visual Western society/societies are far too condemning and silent (prudish) on topics of nudity and/or sexuality The right to die should be as fundamental as your right to live/life Violent peoples are a product of intolerance coupled with a fascination with violence itself (movies, games, guns, etc...) Bearing arms as a means to protect yourself from your fellow citizens is self-propagating and doesn't solve the underlying issues Scientifically illiterate peoples should not be permitted, either socially or procedurally, to run for office So-called divinely-inspired religious ideology as an argument in support for or against an issue should not be accepted outside of the religious domain Absolutely nobody is entitled to automatic respect; it is earned as a person sees fit The general population is ignorant, cannot identify their own biases, and subsequently incapable commenting on nor making decisions relating to public policy The only difference between a cult and a religion is that an adherent of a religion looks at some others as cults; there is no difference People should be able to freely discuss any topic whatsoever without fear of governmental nor social persecution Physically disciplining a child is a sign of parental ignorance, and should be considered a criminal offence Socialised health care is a fundamental element of any compassionate society Racism is an ethereal, abstract concept that simply lodges itself in our brains and can be banished as easily as it comes Mental disorders should be dealt with instead of being a social stigma and being swept under the rug[/quote]

GOOD MEME.

Hmmmm... A serious, thought out post. [spoiler][b][i]Didn't think I'd see something like that here.[/i][/b][/spoiler]