Lol. I was never saying that the game's PvP wasn't messed up a bit. There are definitely a lot of weird things that happen while playing. I think a lot of the problems would be fixed if Destiny had more reliable servers, but there are plenty of things that make it less of a competitive game. You won't see anyone launching MLG matches for this game, at least in the form it is now. I'm just glad that someone has finally actually given a good amount of evidence. Thanks. Also, I have played Destiny quite a bit from day 1, just have played much more PvE than PvP. Took a 6 month break after HoW as well, so that didn't help with PvP involvement.