"Destiny has a rich story and lore without doubt" lol you should turn off your fanboy mode for a while, or at least this time. Prove me wrong but, at first ,did you asked yourself, while playing Destiny, why im dead, who are the fallen , what was that epic battle when they crippled the traveler, what happened to the moon, etc. There is no story is just blind shooting at enemies for no reason. I dont hate Destiny, what bothers me is that, did you play Dark Souls? , well there is no story , the intro of the game shows only a part of the lore of the game ,however the story is well hidden in the ITEMS and the NPCs, and i could tell you the story or lore of all the characters of the game, and unlike Destiny ,the story and lore of characters are INSIDE the game. As for the Angry Joe mention, no i haven't watched the Destiny review, i saw the Honest Trailer, maybe I will watch the review and reply later for a opinion.