Good chance the entire destiny universe is just a vex simulation. If that's true no one could ever win. Oryx could rip them out of the dimension and before some one says they could teleport out or something. There would be no chance of that because it would alter them and bend them to the will of oryx. Cabal can blow up planets with other planets. Also there is no way to two man the VoG. I expect a good counter.