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由God編輯：
2/25/2014 12:03:14 AM
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if we implement gun laws for 35 years
and look at the results. if things work out better, we keep em. if not, we scrap em. whats the worst that could happen? seems alot more pragmatic than debating this issue for another 35 years.
and by gun laws, I'm talking about Obama's proposal.
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6 回覆[quote]whats the worst that could happen?[/quote] Crime goes up, murder rate goes up, and law-abiding citizens will be defenseless.
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4 回覆BC IN 35 YEARS THE AMERICAN GOV'T COULD ENSLAVE IT'S PEOPLE AND FORCE UPON US THE SOCIALIST AGENDA AND
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1 回覆由One Epic Phail編輯： 2/27/2014 6:29:20 AMYou guys have to seriously not understand politics to think that Obama can get any gun legislation through with this house and senate He could come out and say going to church is a good thing and the current crop right wing loony's would come up with an objection
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13 回覆[quote]whats the worst that could happen?[/quote][url=http://www.armedwithreason.com/debunking-the-five-most-important-myths-about-gun-control/]Less crime, less homicide, less femicide, less suicide, less "accidents" at home...[/url] oh, you said worst. Rectal pain?
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1 回覆What kind of gun laws? I haven't been keeping track of what Obama is up to. I laugh at the people who say "you don't need firearms to feel safe." Having spent my childhood in a rural area, have you ever had to deal with a car load of drunk men beating your grandfather to a pulp in the ditch next to his mailbox? Ever met a rabid coyote? Have you even contemplated what you would do if an armed meth head broke into your house while the cops are over 10 minutes away? I've had the first two of those things happen where I lived, the world isn't a happy place when you don't live in a town with the cops right down the street.
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2 回覆10-15 years would probably suffice. It's interesting to think about in theory, but it's never going to happen.
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3 回覆You have no clue how laws work. once a law is in palce it becomes 1000xs harder to abolish it.
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4 回覆People can die. I know people already die but the number will rise. That's the worst that can happen. Wanna try it out? Be my guest. I'll see you at my funeral in the off chance that some thug kills me for the sake of keeping no witnesses.
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I need to get those tennis racket shoes so I don't fall down all the slippery slopes in this thread. On to topic, people will whine for 35 years. In America, when it comes to guns, I notice that many Americans equates control to "ban". It's the same when they equate Obama to a "socialist" or "communist". The amount of times I hear people saying, "We need a revolution" has went up from maybe once or twice a day to about 5 or 6. I'm pretty much getting tired of being America. And at this rate, when I transfer to the UC here, I'm going to do the foreign exchange program that the UC offers and move to Japan with my aunt so I can get away from all the paranoia in here.
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15 回覆Because the only thing that stops a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun and cops can't be everywhere.
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由Pukajlo編輯： 2/26/2014 4:03:11 PM35 years is pretty long. Besides, other countries have had very strict gun laws for a long time now. You could just look at those countries. On top of that, for a nation wide experiment like you seem to be suggesting, there are way to many unpredictable variables to account for and any data collected would have to be taken with a gain of salt. A very large gain of salt. So big you can expect heart complications in your future. Or you compare cities like Chicago where guns are basically illegal to cities where they are easier to obtain.
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6 回覆由MoReCoWbELLx2x1編輯： 2/25/2014 8:28:36 PMWhen someone makes a actually good gun law that doesn't involve the words "assault rifle" or ban stupid things like "gun shrouds". Then maybe we can talk. But as of now, most laws are idiotic. Also this argument of " ban something for x amount of years" is stupid and could be applied to anything.
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1 回覆由Nechromind編輯： 2/25/2014 6:23:52 PMLet's look at it this way. If the government confiscated all guns from law abiding citizens then the law abiding citizens wouldn't have guns. Do you a think criminal is going to get a background check? No he won't, he can get guns through other means that don't require going to a gun shop and purchasing a weapon. Most of the time criminals use stolen weapons. Gun laws are a form of control.
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12 回覆"Military style assault weapons". This term makes me [b]f[/b]ucking cringe. It really does. It's a term invented by politicians and the media in an attempt to demonize guns and make them sound as scary as possible."Military Style" literally translates to: scary ass looking black gun that looks like a military weapon. It's getting so damn ridiculous. I hate it.
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9 回覆[quote]Obama's proposal. [/quote] Obama's proposal is based of Senator Feinstein's irrational 90's laws that didn't work and was biased to "scary looking weapons". This is also keeping in mind the fact that Gun Control will not stop violence as a whole and would just be removing guns from perfectly fine, law abiding citizens.
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4 回覆There's too many guns in he US to an guns. It would be an almost unenforceable law. the prisons wouldn't have enough room for those who would be convicted for owning a gun. A massive chunk of the economy would be torn away. Besides, 35 years is way too long. Anyone who actually opposes it for good reason would probably be dead by then. Why the hell would you come up with a number like that. It basically guarantees that the laws would stay regardless if it works better or not.
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4 回覆由Der Todesengel編輯： 2/25/2014 12:29:58 AMMayhap you should post a link to Obama's proposal, to aid in the discussion... [url=http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx]Here's what I found[/url] [quote]Bans military-style assault weapons and limits magazines to a capacity of 10 rounds.[/quote] Oh, now I know he's not serious. - Der
