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4/10/2013 10:21:40 AM
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"you should be free so long as..."
"... your freedoms don't infringe those of others"
So by this logic freedom-loving conservative nutjobs decide it's OK to kill in elf-defense because someone shooting at you with a gun is infringing your rights.
But did you ever stop and think that by you killing them you just denied them their right to life? If him shooting at you denied his right to life then you shooting back at him denies your right to life.
See, this is the sort of double standards at work as is the norm in conservative circles.
"You can have your rights so long as i can abuse them in the name of my rights."
no.
this kind of thinking is what leads to mass shootings like Sandy Hook. people are under the false impression that they can go around shooting people who aim a punch at them because it's 'self defense' and then some mental psychopath takes it way too far and shoots up a school because of the 'pain' people there caused him.
conservatism is evil and anyone who believes in it should be ashamed of themselves.
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1 回覆If I can buy an assault rifle and a high capacity magazine without even a background check, thats a little too much freedom.
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1 回覆由Buckysaurus編輯： 4/11/2013 3:12:31 AMNow you see right here, children, a prime example of why heroin may lead you down a path to insanity.
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Well rights are made up you know... They're social contracts. Of course they're going to create logic problems when they start getting thrown at each other. So then you put in the exception that rights don't count if they violate other rights.
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[quote]conservatism is evil and anyone who believes in it should be ashamed of themselves.[/quote] switch out some words of that last sentence and you have the same bigotry and intolerance that liberals hate. It's okay to disagree with people, but people tend to need use a good argument when they do it so vehemently.
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This isn't an exclusively-conservative notion. And when someone attempts to kill you, as far as I'm concerned they've officially forfeited their rights and you are perfectly justified in killing them first, or at least trying.
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[quote]But did you ever stop and think that by you killing them you just denied them their right to life? [/quote] He obviously didn't care about his right to life when trying to take mine. The only people who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. That door he kicked down was for his protection, not mine.
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5 回覆So what DO you do when someone is coming at you with a Bat, a Knife, or a gun? Just stand there and call the police, hide and call the police? You'll be lucky if you are not robbed, -blam!- or dead by the time police show up 10-20 minutes later. Do you think most UNARMED people can take on a person who is even wielding a Bat or a Knife? I sure don't think so.
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[quote]"... your freedoms don't infringe those of others" So by this logic freedom-loving conservative nutjobs decide it's OK to kill in elf-defense because someone shooting at you with a gun is infringing your rights. But did you ever stop and think that by you killing them you just denied them their right to life? If him shooting at you denied his right to life then you shooting back at him denies your right to life. See, this is the sort of double standards at work as is the norm in conservative circles. "You can have your rights so long as i can abuse them in the name of my rights." [/quote]If someone is trying to kill you, their right to life is forefeit. There's no double standard at all. I find it quite disgusting that you're trying to demonise self-defense. [quote]this kind of thinking is what leads to mass shootings like Sandy Hook. people are under the false impression that they can go around shooting people who aim a punch at them because it's 'self defense' and then some mental psychopath takes it way too far and shoots up a school because of the 'pain' people there caused him.[/quote]I see we've left reality and entered your fantasy world. [quote]conservatism is evil and anyone who believes in it should be ashamed of themselves.[/quote]LOL. So this was just a lead-up to a shitty troll thread.
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[quote]"... your freedoms don't infringe those of others" So by this logic freedom-loving conservative nutjobs decide it's OK to kill in [u][b][i]elf-defense[/i][/b][/u] because someone shooting at you with a gun is infringing your rights. But did you ever stop and think that by you killing them you just denied them their right to life? If him shooting at you denied his right to life then you shooting back at him denies your right to life. See, this is the sort of double standards at work as is the norm in conservative circles. "You can have your rights so long as i can abuse them in the name of my rights." no. this kind of thinking is what leads to mass shootings like Sandy Hook. people are under the false impression that they can go around shooting people who aim a punch at them because it's 'self defense' and then some mental psychopath takes it way too far and shoots up a school because of the 'pain' people there caused him. conservatism is evil and anyone who believes in it should be ashamed of themselves.[/quote] Elves are creatures too!
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6 回覆You do know self defense is an actual thing that isn't just people shooting shit then later calling it "Self Defense" Using a firearm to defend your self and the people around you is self defense well with a firearm And the gun is not to blame, if you were to teach kids at a young age and tell them to use guns responsibly people would understand firearms better And if they tried to kill me they are denying my right to life, but i have to defend my life so they can't take mine
