Hot take, the special ammo meter revealed how terrible 90% of the population has become. And I'm willing to bet that a vast majority of your complete stomps was simply because the losing team refused to push because they are more afraid of dying than losing. More often than not, I'll watch a team throw a game by having a 2v1 and refusing to push, allowing the enemy to get a 2v2 or 2v3. From my experience, the meta and even mm is actually doing okay, not great, but okay. It's rare I get a teammate that's actually dog sh!+ at the game, rather, thier just cowards

How can we PvP players have fun going up against people who use tools like Cronus Zen or Xim Apex to remove weapon recoil, magnetic aim, etc.? Since Bungie hasn't implemented a solution for this yet, what's the point of reporting it if I've never seen any difference? Marvel Rivals, which launched less than a year ago, has already implemented mechanisms and policies to solve this problem. What about Destiny? Since Forsaken, this has been a problem that has been getting worse and worse. It's now impossible to play a team match in a console queue. It's better to play with someone on PC in your squad than in a team queue on console! How long will Bungie allow this and not comment? I know the game is going through a difficult time, but one of the most negative aspects of playing Destiny PvP is precisely this. It's extremely disheartening to play Destiny 2's PvP.

Agreed. The matchmaking is in the absolute worst state it has ever been in. All modes. 9 out of 10 matches I'm put up agains players my old -blam!- should NEVER have to suffer against.

PvP has been garbage for a fat minute this isn’t new stuff

Sbmm needs to go. Seriously. Bots who claim they get farmed rarely play crucible in the first place.

Dude. You have 3 characters at level 10, and therefore using old weapons. What did you expect your results to be? I'm just now getting caught up. Was behind the curve and taking a beating by those that leveled up in a week. But..... I'm having a good time now, just shy of 350 but have good tier 4s, some 3s, and a few 5s..... It makes a HUGE difference. Synergy / build crafting in this iteration is actually very good. I was skeptical/ resistant at first. Its been great tinkering with it, and I'm starting to enjoy the new system. It enables you to focus & be centric in a lot of different ways.... .... I have one entirely separate build for CQ maps. One general purpose build at 4x 100s, and another that's weapons forged focused (but my least favorite). Some old weapons like my Nechrochasm with full catalyst can still kill....but it doesn't synergize as well as other new weapons.

You haven’t played a single match. Waiter, more lies please!

Posting angry brings in the trolls. Don’t do it. Some advice. Learn from the sweats. Typically they run meta builds. Mirroring their builds will help bring you up to par. Next game follow the leaders, not the crowd. They know the maps and mechanics. Playing as a fireteam works well but if everyone lines up you are easily caught in the crossfire. Following another player helps. Yes hacks exist. Aimbots exist. Mod controllers exist. They are infuriating. Hard to tell sweats from hacks especially when player volume is low. Even more difficult when matchmaking keeps making guaranteed wins and losses.

I think I saw a thread with almost this exact title months ago.

Wow, what amazingly detailed feedback. Great job.