[quote]if you just give away the best stuff with zero effort it ruins a core driver for playing and investing in the game.[/quote] If this was the case with Destiny we would see more deterministic ways to obtain just what you are looking for rather than trying to win the lottery. Players know the game is rigged and unrewarding hence why they flock to cheeses that let them get more chances at the lottery in a short amount of time. [quote]It always goes like this... first equivocators, like you said, "What's the big deal"? So now, no chk pt... maybe Bungie disables saving chk pts entirely, they're already pretty lax with it. They throttled the stat drops clearly back down before they buffed them...[/quote] That's an assumption you made that they purposefully nerfed the stat drops an it wasn't a bug. That and it was pretty consistent across other dungeons dropping low stat armor as well, so more than likely a bug. [quote]So, how with the evidence clearly in front of you, can you argue that it didn't make the game worse for others. Because people can't farm that chk pt legit... even for no farm runs, maybe new people trying to get their 1st clear. The drops are low, so it's not worth farming or playing legit. Master weapon drops aren't special... Literally the only incentive to play and farm master Duality on the rotater is gone.[/quote] That is Bungie's issue if they make the loot unrewarding or not worth the time investment. If doing an entire Master dungeon was worth more than a final boss checkpoint then maybe master dungeons would be worth it. Now tell me is a checkpoint farm legitimate or a cheese? Considering the whole purpose of a checkpoint is to let you pickup the activity later would it be considered a cheese to keep exploiting multiple characters to farm a singular boss? This is also due to Bungie increasing difficulty of master Dungeon while not increasing their reward. You push the players and the players will push back.

As bad as this garbage has been so far don't you think we're entitled to a little exploitation . This might have helped some players who wouldn't have gotten the armor legit.

It's a video game, it's meant to be enjoyed. It's not an existential crisis or morality test. Plenty of buggy things happen in this game that cause things that aren't intended, who cares if you think you earned it? You. Just you.

Lol

"Ruins the economy"... What "economy"??? Exactly what are you trading to other players? What is this doing that affects other players in ANY way?... This was a move designed to prolong grind and take away a farm method... rarely were people getting god rolls... Epicureans and GLs galore, but not so much on the high stat artifice pieces.

Yeah don't trip it wasn't directed at you specifically.

Still works just fine and i get the run from start to finish in 6 mins and guess what i don't need a sword, emot.. Justrunit regular 95% of it you can run right past the enemies lol.. I'll even run you through it if you can keep up but I'm almost guaranteed you couldn't.

There's more than one master dungeon Swan! 😉 My hunter has 3 equipped, My warlock has 4 currently equipped... my Titan has one; but that's my 70 HoiL kit. And I have a vault full of it.... That person was eating sour grapes, but trying to mask it. I can do Caital legit on master in less than 5 mins... this fortunate guy, can't even skip to the 1st chk pt faster... and needs a backpack of hula hoops. This person would rather encourage exploits that take longer than legitimate play because that's how misguided they are. That's a win for me for sure, for Bungie... for anyone that wants these leeches gone.

It's not this guy is clown and could easily be out done in any aspect of the game.