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12/6/2022 11:56:32 AM
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As far as I’ve noticed (and correct me if I’m wrong) the player base started shrinking heavily in this season (s18). We should be at an all time low in terms of numbers at the moment. Plus, people have started getting refunds for their Lightfall pre-orders. The game has just become too stale. So if we take s18 as the “financial wake-up call” moment, Bungie won’t have had time to address any major issues. S19 will most likely be exactly the same as all the previous ones. Cookie cutter, and just barely entertaining enough to get us to Lightfall, with the only real hype coming towards the end as we gear up for the DLC. (Naively, I still hope I get proven wrong on that one) But I guess we can probably expect 1 of 2 things: Optimistically Bungie makes a lot of flashy promises this season to finally actually address current issues, and starts implementing those halfway into Lightfall. Realistically Bungie just keeps their heads down and their mouths shut, knowing that s19 is basically a write-off, hoping that Lightfall will quiet players down once it drops
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  • If I’m not mistaken, the seasons individually are all pre-planned and more-or-less completed months ahead of time. So even if they have been listening to players, planning to address some long-awaited fixes (such as restoring vaulted content), and just generally improve the game due to the current level of dissatisfaction, it’s unlikely we would see that change immediately in Season 19. They would have to trickle in a few smaller fixes to quell the masses, while planning to implement greater fixes in later seasons, and that’s only IF they plan to address what seems to be a genuine exodus of players. In short, of course S19 will be more of the same. If they actually intend to address the problems of the community (and those problems are often contradictory due to difference of opinion, mind you), it won’t be happening until Lightfall at least.

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  • This is similar to the thought I had about this year in general. This year seemed more about getting some foundational stuff going and tuned, like 3.0 subclasses, core mechanics, things that you don't really want to mess with if you're introducing massive new environments and gameplay elements, so you use the elements that are already in game. This groundwork could allow them to really pull out all the stops in Lightfall. I'm no dev, but I can imagine that, as you said, seasons most likely are done a couple months in advance making immediate changes incredibly hard to do. If it were me, then in order to not break the game I'd want to make incremental changes and fold them in, addressing whatever issues stem from them before adding the next QoL feature. And if this is what Bungie is doing then yeah, it would be awesome if they communicated that, but not only is the community often contradictory in their opinions but often address their concerns with such vehemence and vitriol that I wouldn't really want to communicate with them either. Can't please everyone, sure, but the folks acting like Karens and Kyles towards Bungie don't make it easy for them to communicate

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  • Certainly so. I’ve been called a “fanboy” on occasion for giving Bungie some slack, but by no means am I pleased with the current state of things. I too want the full worth of my money, as well as the content I paid for that has been cut from the game, but I won’t stoop to throwing a tantrum over it. As it is, I’m really only playing this season because I already paid for it when Witch Queen released. I wasn’t planning to purchase Lightfall until decent reviews rolled in. All that said, I’m hoping that exactly what you’ve said is the reality, and this block of seasons was for fundamental tweaking. Fingers crossed we see some considerable changes on the horizon. In the meantime, all we can really do as fans of the series is to express our frustrations calmly and respectfully. Screaming, crying, and name-calling is more likely to turn developers off of improving the game than to hasten impactful updates, in my opinion.

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  • The playerbase has been decreasing since the Curse of Osiris but everyone kept denying it and the people who brought it up were labeled as just bungie haters. This season just made it painfully obvious that people can no longer deny it.

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