Was just reading a Paul Tassi article on this exact thing titled "sunset sunsetting" then I come here and wow lol well atleast the community is letting them know how they feel. More and more all the die hard sunsetting fans are starting to take a sharp turn after this. I know myself and the few people I do know who still play destiny have been spending most of their down time playing other games. I know I've lost my incentive to chase weapons and gear now that they come with an expiration date and now to get reissued gear shows that there is a huge problem. And for gods sake enough with the keyboard warriors and toxicity from people saying others are "whining" and "cry babies"... Try having constructive conversations lol. People are pissed and they have a right to freedom of speech last time I checked lol. Even the people who support sunsetting are entitled to their opinions even if they are rapidly becoming the minority 😏

Why didn't they only sunset pinnacles? Weren't they the main problem?

The entire point of sunsetting was to remove good perks from good guns. That's it. They said it was about making room for new innovative weapons. I called this out the day it was announced and uninstalled.

So sick of old gear in this game FFS!!!!! Bungie Really Really starting to hate this game “again”!

Lol, you could see this coming from a mile away. Just stop playing the game, and maybe they will take the game in a different direction. I have taken this season off because I don’t support what the developers are doing to the game.

That’s just it— they are listening to the community. Players said in d2 y1 that they wanted to have to grind for that perfect roll instead of having static rolls, and said they wouldn’t mind grinding the same gear over again for it. Then, when players had it all in vanilla, bungie made new gear in each expansion but people complained that everything wasn’t better than the old stuff. So, in forsaken, they solved both problems, random rolls and more perks, literally better than the old gear and even some reissues with random rolls. When that seemed perfect, they added pinnacle weapons... which were so good, they made everything else seem worthless, apart from a couple standouts. Now bungie had a problem... if new gear has to be stronger than the last, where does it end? Players complained as content was released and only one “good” weapon was released, and there was nothing to hunt for because the random rolls a and/or pinnacles they got before were just right or too strong. They loved their old stuff, but couldn’t help complaining about the new stuff not replacing it. So, because they’re so good at listening, and they want to solve all the players’ problems all the time instead of sticking to one ideal, they found a way to give players the grind they crave, but without having to go bankrupt to do it. Enter: sunsetting. It is an honest treadmill, unlike before where the treadmill had a scrolling background to make you think you’re moving, now you know you’re not moving. You know that the item you have will need to be regrinded for, and when, instead of an expansion coming out with gear that has perks that make your old gear worthless. While I hate the concept of sunsetting, I like that it is honest, it convinces the player to play a bit more lightheartedly, not to pour too much time and effort into any one thing because it won’t last too long... but sadly, it also has the opposite effect. Some players get extreme fomo, and feel obligated to farm for the god roll so they can actually use it in relevant content while the gun has life. Until bungie accepts that no matter what, no choice they make will solve every problem... we will continue to cycle through these different ideas for how they can keep the carrot that’s dangling just out of the player’s reach appetizing. It’s not really as disrespectful to their time as players think. Players have to look inside— is the “pain” of losing what you worked for but always having something to grind for more bearable than the “boredom” of having the best gear before an expansion even comes out? The answer is... both and neither. While I, personally, would play this game even after getting everything, because I think the game is great to actually play and hell to actually grind... many players would rather have to grind, and if they got everything they ever wanted, they’d just get bored and complain about having everything. And without sunsetting, it simply isn’t feasible to keep trying to dump new gear into the pool and expect players to use it or be satisfied by it if they have that god roll on a similar weapon. My solution would be to just make uniquely powerful pinnacle weapons each season, and those weapons only last a few months or something. Everything else, let me keep. There wouldn’t be enough to work for tho, for many. TLDR? That’s no problem man it’s really not that important. WTFLDFR? *gasp — wow okay that’s fine, don’t need to curse about it though... TLBSR? Well thank you kind sir. A cookie for you. Sorry for wasting your time!

One week away from this fuster cluck today and I don’t miss it at all I’ve been enjoying D1 and Valhalla This just put another lock on the door

Oh please why is everyone so butthurt. If you guys don’t like the game don’t play it. You sound like a spoiled toddler crying at their mommy that they didn’t get their way. Bungie isn’t going to change anything. Everyone that is complaining is 100% going to continue playing no matter what they do. This is just a cry for your mountaintop and revoker to get unsunset.

“The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete...the time you invested in your stuff should be respected.” So what happened to that Bungie?

😂 it’s funny how mad people get about these things. The way I see it Bungie have given me reasons to go into the Pit again. Dungeons are great content but have always lacked loot to make me go in there. If Bungie refresh that like they have with the Pit im happy with that. I probably won’t run it that often but now and again for decent rolled stars on armour, and maybe a HC roll. New players also have a reason to jump in there which is always a good thing.