I doubt it. Have you seen the numbers lately on destiny tracker? 21 million accounts this game has, but now many active?

[quote]I doubt it. Have you seen the numbers lately on destiny tracker? 21 million accounts this game has, but now many active?[/quote] People have multiple accounts so the numbers don't mean anything. I know its not as extreme as this but I'm gonna use it to make a point... I have 3 active Xbox live accounts that I have played Destiny on. My first account is my main, I have a smurf account, and I had an account that I forgot the details to. Lets just look at the figures and pretend I was the only person ever to play destiny, that's 3 accounts, but only 1 active. Bungie haven't suddenly lost 66.6% of their playerbase though. There are tons of players who have multiple accounts, tons of kids that saw their parent play destiny and want to try it, only to move onto the next thing that's shiny cuz they don't have the patience for destiny. How many people got it on gamepass or tried the free to play version, and then decided that it just wasn't for them after like 2 missions. I'm not disputing numbers dropping, it's noticeable in game, but I don't think it's anywhere near as severe as the figures suggest.

Actually that’s not the case due to cross-save. The reality is that player numbers are stable but shifting to different platforms. PC numbers are dropping because of cheating. Console numbers are up because of next-Gen...and Stadia is finally getting traction because of it has one of the best versions of Cyberpunk. Everyone wants to believe that the game lives and dies by their personal interest in it. It doesn’t. I stopped playing Warframe two years ago and the game did just fine without me.

[quote]Actually that’s not the case due to cross-save. The reality is that player numbers are stable but shifting to different platforms. PC numbers are dropping because of cheating. Console numbers are up because of next-Gen...and Stadia is finally getting traction because of it has one of the best versions of Cyberpunk. Everyone wants to believe that the game lives and dies by their personal interest in it. It doesn’t. I stopped playing Warframe two years ago and the game did just fine without me.[/quote] Not sure what cross save has to do with me having multiple xbox live accounts but ok. Not to mention they were made and played on long before cross save existed. They're undoubtedly dropping, it's clear as day to see. I get what youre saying about a lot of shifting platforms, but overall the numbers are going down. But like I said, no where near what the figures suggest.

Because most people haven’t done what you did. They did what I did. Which allows them to move from platform to platform. So someone who is unhappy on PC because the charting situation is out of control can simply move to console or to Stadia. Player numbers on PSN are stable. Player numbers on Stadia are up dramatically as the platform is finally starting to get traction because it was one of the few places where you could play a functional version of Cyberpunk 2077. Which is finally starting to break the hostility that many people had to it...plus it’s performance at lower bandwidths has supposedly improved. Player numbers are stable across the game as a whole...and those are the actual facts. Bottomline, this player “uprising” isnt affecting player numbers, because Bungie saw it coming and planned for it. So the unhappy vets who are leaving are simply being replaced by new players.

[quote]Because most people haven’t done what you did. They did what I did. Which allows them to move from platform to platform. So someone who is unhappy on PC because the charting situation is out of control can simply move to console or to Stadia. Player numbers on PSN are stable. Player numbers on Stadia are up dramatically as the platform is finally starting to get traction because it was one of the few places where you could play a functional version of Cyberpunk 2077. Which is finally starting to break the hostility that many people had to it...plus it’s performance at lower bandwidths has supposedly improved. Player numbers are stable across the game as a whole...and those are the actual facts. Bottomline, this player uprising isnt affecting player numbers, because Bungie saw it coming and planned for it. So the unhappy vets who are leaving are simply being replaced by new players.[/quote] Nowhere did i say most people did what I did? I just said I know there will have been a lot of people who did. Also before crossplay became a thing if people switched platforms. Not buying it. Not completely anyway. What you say makes sense and I get where you're coming from, but they're dropping players.

No personal disrespect, but the daily engagement numbers really do t care if you buy it or not. The player numbers across the franchise are not decreasing. They are in the same cycle of 1 million-plus per day during the height of a season...the dipping down to about 800k per day near season’s end. Those are the facts. What loses PC may have seen have been made up elsewhere. Odds are they aren’t even really losses but migration to other platforms that are now offering similar performance but without the cheating problems that Bungie is having to sue people in an effort to try to suppress on PC. As I said. Player numbers on Stadia are up dramatically. As that platform is finally starting to find its legs.

Is there a way to ban you from posting bs on my posts? You’re always here blabbering bs that doesn’t make sense

[quote]No personal disrespect, but the daily engagement numbers really do t care if you buy it or not. The player numbers across the franchise are not decreasing. They are in the same cycle of 1 million-plus per day during the height of a season...the dipping down to about 800k per day near season’s end. Those are the facts. What loses PC may have seen have been made up elsewhere. Odds are they aren’t even really losses but migration to other platforms that are now offering similar performance but without the cheating problems that Bungie is having to sue people in an effort to try to suppress on PC. As I said. Player numbers on Stadia are up dramatically. As that platform is finally starting to find its legs.[/quote] No personal disrespect taken, but thank you for clarifying. Think we're both well versed in the heightened sensitivity on this forum when anyone dares disagree with someone. Until there's a reliable way of viewing the numbers and time played we're gonna have to agree to disagree. I know there are sites out there, but each tracks differently. I'd be more inclined to believe/trust figures that only counted accounts that were active more than an hour or two. Or be able to see the average time spent per day because I feel like just because the actual numbers may not move much and often fluctuate, the time spent likely goes down. I can only go by what I see, and what I hear from talking with friends who play/no longer play the game. My friends list has gone from being 75% destiny 2 everytime they're online, to 40% destiny 2. I know my friends list isn't the source of all knowledge, but that's a real life current representation. Shame bungie don't include player counts for playlists, like they used to when they had halo though.

You can bet when I have the right setup I will be playing on stadia for Destiny all the time.

The only reason I don't play it full time is because my clan plays mainly on PSN.