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由TuxyDoh編輯: 12/1/2019 7:51:27 PM
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[quote] why would i even need to cheat on game that's pretty simple minded. [/quote] yet people do it all the time. [quote]I've had 1 programme running in the background that I know implements itself into applications and thats Overwolf[/quote] Well.. if it tries to implement itself into or with destiny 2, that is against the rules. [quote]But its unfair that its implemented like this where programmes used for games can get you banned[/quote]Their game... their rules and we agreed to it. [quote] swear if it was for win trading due to my match history have fun linking me to other players i never met in my life...[/quote] While it probably wasnt. If it was they dont have to "link" you to the other players. Win trade lobbies are fairly obvious and Bungie can ban you for anything they wish so it the burden of proof is very low. Even since you claim to know the answers, I will post it again. [b]Restrictions are temporary, and will not be overturned or undone before they expire. Once an account is banned however, that ban is permanent. Account restrictions and bans are only done in extreme cases; if actions were taken against your account, then it was with reason. [/b] [b]There are NO options to dispute or overturn account restrictions or bans.[/b] Bans are lifetime for that account https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/1179836392953675776 <- Most recent info [url=http://www.bungie.net/bans]bans and restrictions policy page[/url] [i]*I am not a Bungie representative, just a player trying to give the answers that are available.[/i] [quote]Was playing some pvp where i was getting pretty much annihilated due to level difference, however I played 1 game were it was the opposite, afk'd came back to the game and I was in title screen with a ban. I've had 1 programme running in the background that I know implements itself into applications and thats Overwolf. I've never cheated on this game and I play warframe more then this... why would i even need to cheat on game that's pretty simple minded. This is my first ban ever and it seems to be a permanent one and i have no idea to see whether it is or not. Its not fair considering the fact that I finally reached end game as a solo player just farming the one pve weapon i really want and for it to end like this. I'd really appreciate it if someone can help me solve this. I know the way the game works is that once a ban it will stay. But its unfair that its implemented like this where programmes used for games can get you banned and I swear if it was for win trading due to my match history have fun linking me to other players i never met in my life...[/quote]
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  • Yes I understand that. The logic is their and correct, However Overwolf is designed as an overlay for games. It doesn't benefit the player in and right. But due to the negligence of a bungie support team they don't need evidence or proof it is their right to ban me, however they please. This is unfair treatment. I've played warframe for a good 3 years. Their support team saved me from a ban thanks to a similar circumstance, but bungie cant even do that? that's uncalled for and unfair for those that are innocent.

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  • Plus theirs no point really starting a argument since I've been using Overwolf for a good week or 2 without a single statement from Bungie, this happened randomly today when i returned from work. Now all i want is someone from Bungie to review my issue. But thanks to how they operate that wont be happening any time soon, so ill just leave this here until i get an official response, until then ill just play a game that has a support team...

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  • bans are reviewed manually before being placed so that first time 2 weeks ago could have been the reason for the ban.

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  • Fair enough of their behalf, however it doesn't state that i should be permanent banned, i've read people who have tried connecting a pad have a similar issue. These arent benefiting the player with an advantage, and as they also stated first time bans are usually suspension or temporary bans, But getting an instant permanent ban means that their definitely either doing something wrong or are using a automated system as well. But its okey, I didnt pay for anything on that account just lost time = money and my end game loot. If i ever feel like playing again ill just make a new account. But the way they deal with this is just awful.

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  • Its not awful at all when it comes to protecting the integrity of the game

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  • So you have the right to state that if you was banned permanently due to an employee of bungie who was being lazy and banned you for whatever reason and you wouldnt know why and you would never know that you was banned by an employee without any knowledge of why/who and if it was viewed by them at all. They dont notify you and they dont have anyone that can give you support. Have fun backing them up then. Cause at this point i dont really care anymore. If i want to play again ill just do that, but for now im returning to warframe...

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  • Employee wasnt being lazy... Bungie would simply go out of business like that kiddo

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  • Thats why game companies have support teams, But its okey, I've heard what i needed to hear. Just got to wait to see what happens next.

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  • Source to where it says bans are supposed to start out as temporary or suspension?

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  • As seen below, It states bans are checked correctly to make things fair for those guilty and not. I was banned within one day of playing pvp I left mid game once and that was it. I used a third party application called overwolf which is a overlay for any game that i play, so i can see stats of weapons and etc, this has no impact on the game and against other players therefore its not something that should be set as a permanent banned but that's not for me to choose. Also written below from their ban polices it states that bans would indicate if im unable to access certain activities; they would need to state that if it was just a perma ban from the game. Funny enough i've seen people trying to connect controls to the Pc version of the game and also getting Account banned. Im not the only one that got banned for the dumbest of reasons. I thought at most my ban was a restriction or a ban 'If a player receives a message that references an account or device ban, they have permanently lost access to the activities indicated in the ban message.' 'Permanent account bans are only implemented with rigorous checking to ensure that the innocent are not punished alongside the guilty. Below is what i used my application overwolf for. Which was to view ingame details and stats for gear and locations to travel to obtain and complete quests that i was unsure of. Unfortunately it seems the application i used could have been disallowed by bungie, but they have not stated that it was invalid and illegal to use. And I will repeat myself one last time, The fact they dont have a support team unlike any other game organisation goes to show they are abusing the power they have. Like the guy above you stated to protect the integrity of the game, just dont become the next me and join those that complain about getting banned thanks to third party applications that dont actually have a impact with or against other players. 'Overlays Some features from third-party applications which rely on the use of screen overlays are generally not compatible with Destiny 2. The following are examples of features which may not be compatible with Destiny 2 on PC.' 'However, Bungie reserves the right to ban or restrict players that are using third-party applications to violate our Code of Conduct or the license agreement that governs Destiny as outlined above. Bans and restriction are not applied automatically. Bungie reviews all possible violations before applying a ban or restriction to an account or device.'

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  • Nowhere in that long mess of a reply is anything said about needing to be temporary. In fact, it specifically states “bans are permanent”.

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  • 由Izayoi編輯: 12/5/2019 4:59:03 PM
    I dont know if your brain works one way, But a 'RESTRICTION' is a suspension. A suspension is a 'BAN'. Permanent banned is a thing. But they call Suspensions 'Restrictions'. I can see how you have the gal to think your right...

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  • Theirs such things as Activity Restrictions. That are viewed as Suspensions. But they view the account and they state that they ban fairly on first time players. I was given a Permanent ban; Not a restriction/Suspension.

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  • Seems your brain isn’t working at all. Bans are bans, restrictions are restrictions, and suspensions are suspensions. Each have different lengths of punishment. Ban = permanent. Restrictions = 2 weeks or longer. Suspensions = 30-60 minutes.

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  • And where does it state that then? Cause its not in the polices?

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  • From talking to people & helping for over 3.5-4 years!

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  • Look i dont blame you for getting your point across. I can see you wanting to help and i can accept that. But im not here to argue about how the ban system works. I just want proof of what i did wrong. Show me a video clip of me doing something illegal or whatever. Cause im just sitting here laughing. Its their system their rules. I cant do nothing but complain to random people.

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  • Bungie isn’t going to show you a video. At best, they’ll give a brief message as to what caused it (as seen in the link New Age provided).

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  • But thats the thing. I've done nothing on that link. I've had someone tell me they use overwolf and never had this problem. So im really confused. Its become really bothersome and stuck in my head. I just want a message or something from bungie to explain what and why i was banned. And some sort of proof. Cause they have nothing. At the end of the day. My account is their property i have no right over it...

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  • Bungie rarely replies to ban posts, and when they do it is intentionally vague. You won't get the "proof" you're looking for.

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  • And all you can hope for is that Bungie Security comes in & provides a statement. But they don’t necessarily respond to all, and it may take some time to get a response if they decide to respond.

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  • Understandable. I would just like some sort of information. Because not matter what they state theirs no evidence of me cheating and the only thing i can think of was me using overwolf. So yeh hopefully they'll get back to me at some point. Ill just wait until then. Thanks for the help.

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  • And it doesn’t have to be cheating that gets you banned. It could also be for simply running an illicit program (trainer for another game, debugger for work/coding, etc).

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  • Yeh im not worried about that dont worry :) I just hope they get back to me. Thanks.

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  • I have sent a pm to security. No promises that it’ll get you a reply, but it is what it is for now.

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