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由Ferus Lux編輯: 10/18/2019 2:19:31 AM
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Why can't we matchmake for 950 Nightfalls?

Clearly you don't actually want players to play your content. Why waste my time using an LFG? Umm...LITERALLY just let me match make for 950's. Let ME decide if the lack of communication is an issue and run off to find a team if I feel the need. Stop telling me, "No go make some friends" when matching with players WOULD MAKE ME SOME **** FRIENDS. You. Godd**n. Idiots. Edit: A lot of people are saying "tHeY cAn'T aDd MaTcHmAkInG bEcAuSe Of MoDiFiErS aNd EqUipMeNt LoCkS!" They can add a requirement to have two different kinds of weapon mods before you're allowed to launch. I thought this would be common sense. Yet another Edit: Bungie's reply is basically: We don't trust players and don't think they will be able complete 950 Nightfalls because alot of you suck at communicating and have no thumbs and we won't give you a chance to prove otherwise by atleast temporarily adding matchmaking and collecting completion statistics.

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  • It would be a colossal failure.

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  • No. I'm not huge on finding ppl to run nightfalls either especially how "elite" ppl try to be but the community has been saying for ages that nightfalls were a joke both in loot and difficulty. Difficult content requires coordination and you wont find that with mm. Ppl refuse to use team speak in comp what makes you think they will use it in pve?

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  • :< ̄`ヽ、       / ̄>  ゝ、  \ /⌒ヽ,ノ  /´    ゝ、 `( ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) /      >     ,ノ      ∠_,,,/´”

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  • Idk ppl might not have mods and expect the other two ppl to carry them.

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  • How many friends have you made from crucible, strikes? They are match made!

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    • "Optional" Matchmaking. Optional Matchmaking for Raids is on the iffy side of things, but I'm not against it. Just put a screen up saying you agree to this and that just like what guided games does to all who uses it. Lol! What is Guided Games?

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    • [quote]Clearly you don't actually want players to play your content. Why waste my time using an LFG? Umm...LITERALLY just let me match make for 950's. Let ME decide if the lack of communication is an issue and run off to find a team if I feel the need. Stop telling me, "No go make some friends" when matching with players WOULD MAKE ME SOME **** FRIENDS. You. Godd**n. Idiots. Edit: A lot of people are saying "tHeY cAn'T aDd MaTcHmAkInG bEcAuSe Of MoDiFiErS aNd EqUipMeNt LoCkS!" They can add a requirement to have two different kinds of weapon mods before you're allowed to launch. I thought this would be common sense.[/quote] Why don’t you try LFG and not talk to them. Matchmaking that takes 10 seconds of effort. It isn’t the no time, no brain effortlessness you desire, but it is so easy. I don’t understand how this is an issue.

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      • It’s just a little too difficult to rely on someone’s skill without communication

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        • 由CookieNiki編輯: 10/17/2019 10:25:03 PM
          [quote]Let ME decide if the lack of communication is an issue and run off to find a team if I feel the need.[/quote] And they even had the nerve of saying, in their pre-shadowkeep marketing campaign, that they were changing things to let players play the way they wanted. Guess what... they lied. Again.

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          • 由SnakeEyes編輯: 10/17/2019 5:26:51 PM
            I’ve played a few hero nightfalls in matchmaking and the randoms my gosh. If people don’t read what the modifiers are it makes it bad. Randoms go in with weapons that make it painful. I had a random go in with a bought forgotten with no unstoppable rounds or anti-barrier rounds on anything. He had a loadout like he was in PvP. Matchmaking in harder content is a no for me. [spoiler]bungie won’t spend anytime reading your post when you act like a spoiled brat and throw insults at them. Grow up and stop wetting the bed already. [/spoiler] Edit: you’re not even 950, not even close to the delta. I would hate to matchmake with you. That would be painful as -blam!-. What would you do with your 920-930 weapons? Tickle ads to death?

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            • 🤦🏾‍♂ LFG dude. Try it.

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            • Why should you be able to MM for 950's? After playing 920's over and over for the stupid vanguard quest for the emblem and shaders, I can say that most people I found are stupid and would only slow people down further in 950's. Nobody runs anti-barrier/overload/unstoppable rounds. Nobody plays for score, they only want to get the 5 nightfall completions even though they could also get 100k. The only reason most might want matchmaking on 950 nightfall's is to get 3 out of 5 at once and to get carried by people who actually know how to play the game.

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              • Because Bungie is trash and never listens to feedback. It is clear that the vast majority of players want matchmaking in all activities for all difficulties (as evident by this and other similar posts always receiving plenty of upvotes, despite the few dumb fanboys who just object for the sake of objecting even though they would not be affected), but those stubborn morons at Bungie will never listen to what their own customers want, all while introducing more scams to eververse, and then they wonder why they are bleeding players.

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                • Cause it makes too much sense. Not the Bungie way

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                  • I’d rather guarantee myself a good run for 100k than hope to god I get decent people with adequate loadouts

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                    • 由Guardian6969編輯: 10/17/2019 8:09:55 PM
                      Have you seen what some players do in the 920? They get literally no kills and run past champions. Killing champions gets you more points! You would never complete a 950 run lol

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                    • Because there’s only two 950’s.

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                    • The elitism is spreading I swear. First crucible, then raids, now glorified strikes? Every activity should have optional matchmaking, Bungie is just A. Too lazy B. Using outdated engines to support changes C. Has no clue where they are going with this game

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                      • The Clutch Claw is a game changer. It makes it so much easier to target an area and break parts off of large monsters.

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                        • Make patrols solo only. Else some underlevelled 'astards will be carried through a planetary surface. Wanna patrol? Get good at socializing. In some other game.

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                        • If my experience in the 920 version is any indication, the 950 version would be a nightmare. So many times in Nightmare Hunts and Nightfalls, I'm the only one actually bringing any mods to counter the Champions.

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                          • I saw nightfalls had matchmaking and got excited, then saw it was only for 750 & 920. Good news is that the new nightfalls don't have any exclusive rewards, so if it's Scarlett Keep or the new one on Io, there's zero incentive to play them beyond the weekly milestones.

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                          • 由Wes編輯: 10/17/2019 2:30:22 PM
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                            Just think about that for a minute. The 950 nightfall is significantly more difficult than the previous tier. Not hard for some, but punishing for others. It's just more efficient to do it with a premade fireteam. Do you really want to carry one or two people through every 950 you matchmake? I doubt it. If you don't believe me, look at Reckoning. To this day, even though there are no negative modifiers at all, people fail Tier 2 and 3 regularly, and yet to a pre-made fireteam the activity is a joke. And yes, Reckoning was built in in way such that it demanded certain classes. But 950 and 980 nightfalls are no different for the vast majority of players. Well, Bubble, and Tether are still incredibly useful because they enhance the team dynamic, something that is required in pinnacle activities. That blueberry rocking 6 shot golden gun and saving all 6 shots for the boss doesn't enhance anything, and you'll match him. Or do you want guys you matchmake to be rocking Spectral Blades and just die? Or pop their super and make no orbs? You'll match him to. Everytime something like that happened, the chances of success would decrease and it would become frustrating to the point of people quitting regularly and/or screaming "Nerf nightfalls! Matchmaking makes it too hard!" That is exactly what happened to Reckoning and Nightfalls would be no different. By removing matchmaking, Bungie can better preserve the difficulty of these activities while making the rewards and indicator of their completion. Unfortunately, that excludes a lot of players. Optional matchmaking would only work if Bungie left the difficulty untouched, but that would never happen. Reckoning has been made easier 3 or 4 times now. I personally think an in-game version of LFG would be better. One that's more selective than matchmaking and can be done from Orbit. No app or website.

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                            • Here is the reason from Bungies perspective 1) They are alot of modifiers and alot of champions who can only be taken down using certain artifact mods so you will need communication 2) MatchGame modifier will mean every gaurdian should be using a different element of differen weapons to cover diff elements so you will need communication on who kills what 3) you will generally need to stick together everybody cant be running off in the wilderness doing they own thing once again you will need to communicate

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                            • Agreed, that’s why I hardly ever bother with them

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                            • 由BIRB編輯: 10/17/2019 6:10:32 PM
                              Completely agree with you. I bet lots of people agree with you, in fact. But just a word of advice, you don’t need to be rude and call the devs “idiots”, because surely they wont listen then. Destiny is an ever changing and game which requires user feedback. That feedback doesn’t have to be hostile.

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