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10/25/2018 2:32:20 AM
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That is definitely big, although after Leviathin, no other ship is going to impress with size alone.
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由SancusXenon編輯： 10/25/2018 4:48:03 AMSee, that's where you're wrong. See Nessus? It's only 160 km across. It's STILL BEING EATEN after over a year. At the absolute most, Leviathan is 1000km across. The Dreadnaught is 3400 km. Do you see the difference here?
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Proportions in Destiny are notoriously inconsistent (see for example, the countless attempts to get an accurate estimate of the Traveler’s size.) However, the ghost remarked on the Leviathin, “The Cabal can’t have a ship [i]that[/i] big, can they?” and did not remark similarly on the size of the Dreadnaught.
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I mean, Xol is a worm god. He was the most powerful thing we had ever seen at that point. Yes, it was dumb that he was a strike boss when we have had entire campaigns leading to raids to defeat less powerful foes. But from a purely lore based perspective, the ghost wasn’t wrong about that.
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由SancusXenon編輯： 10/25/2018 5:04:16 AMBecause the Cabal are a completely causal species. They have no choice but to obey the laws of physics. The Hive break physics when they're born. They break it on the daily when they eat Light like it's a physical meal. The Leviathan is a Cabal mining ship. It's designed purpose is to pull apart asteroids and such and process the materials. And before you say "then why is it/the raid lair called 'Eater of Worlds'" let me just stop you right there, because I've had that used plenty of times. Well, the other raid lair is called 'Spire of Stars' but I don't see any giant towers made from suns, do you? No, I didn't think so.
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It’s definitely not a mining ship. It’s Emperor Calus’s prison and pleasure yacht. It consumes worlds to feed its massive power needs. And it’s not called eater of worlds for no reason. It does indeed consume planets, the in-game dialogue says as much. But whatever, believe what you like, at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter.
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Why the actual fu[u][/u]ck would Ghaul exile Calus on a ship like that? If it's big enough to eat actual fully sized planets, why did it even go after Nessus to begin with? And on top of that, why is it STILL trying to eat it? How did it not devour Nessus in a day or two and move on?
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The leviathan was a cabal prison barge to being with. Im sure its still functioned as a "planet" eater, but it wasnt all shiny and nice to be on. After being exiled, Calus wandered the cosmos for some time on the leviathan and had an epiphany when coming to its "edge." After said epiphany , he basically overhauled the leviathan, to match his new found attitude of opulence and gluttony.
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Because Calus was beloved throughout the empire. He would have had no support from the citizenry if he had killed or imprisoned Calus, so he exiled him to his own pleasure ship so he could pass it off as sending him on vacation and save public face. It went after Nessus because the Vex terraforming had made the Centaur rich with the minerals used to make the royal wine. All of this is stated pretty plainly in the lore. As for why it hasn’t eaten Nessus yet, the real reason is that then we wouldn’t have Nessus as an playable space any more and that would suck. As far as the lore is concerned... Calus likes us and we like Nessus.
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According to raid weapon tabs, the grand leviathan was a prison barge. After coming to the "edge" of the cosmos and staring into something greater, calus had an epiphany and decided to remake the leviathan as to match his newfound attitude. I could have misinterpreted what i was reading, but pretty sure i did not.
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People have proven, with math, how big it is. It's at most 1000 km across. Here's another thing. It is physically impossible for it to be big enough to eat planets. If it was that big, it's own gravity would pull into a ball. And if its Vex teraforming he needs, then why isn't he going after Venus? Or Mercury? Or literally any planet the Vex have converted in the entire universe, since he's [i]apparently[/i] been to the edge of it.
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由Patient3591編輯： 10/25/2018 6:02:03 AMPeople have also proven mathematically that the traveler is a different size for basically every image it’s in. Destiny’s visual design has absolutely no consistency of scale. Here’s another thing. It’s physically impossible for asteroids to hold onto an atmosphere. And yet there are dust devils in the Tangled Shore. Destiny gives no shits about scientific accuracy. He doesn’t need Vex terraforming, he needs minerals which Vex terraforming happens to produce a lot of. I’m sure the Leviathin has consumed many, many Vex worlds, as well as countess other worlds that happen to have the minerals for royal wine for completely different reasons. Why’d he go for Nessus instead of Mercury or Venus? It’s just the one he picked first. I’m sure he would have eaten them too when he was done. Then he met a bunch of Guardians who killed his betrayers and were not too keen on the idea of Sol planetoids being turned into wine, so he invited them on to his ship to test their worth, and they passed. Now he’s our ally.
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See, the asteroid belt was hit by the Traveler's Light hundreds of years ago. And even then, there's a big difference between some Light fu[u][/u]cking with the asteroid belt and a ship larger than planets not caving in on itself, or even being constructed in the first place. Not to mention the fact that we can even see Nessus at all from atop the Leviathan. If it was bigger than planets, this would not be possible. It would also not be possible to see anything that wasnt the Leviathan when looking up on Nessus. And yet we can.
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If we allow for space magic, all bets are off. The Leviathin could be constructed from some super-strong, super-light exotic material. Or it could be held up by space magic. The game doesn’t tell us, and it doesn’t have to, because it’s space opera, not hard sci-fi. As for seeing Nessus/Leviathin from one another, again, Destiny’s visual design lacks consistency of scale, so this doesn’t hold up as evidence of anything.
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They have access to sufficiently advanced technology, such that it is indistinguishable from magic to us real-life modern humans. They built a cage capable of capturing and harvesting the traveler’s light. Making ships out of super-hard, super-light material is not out of the scope of possibility for them. Heck, graphene exists in real-life, so it’s not even that much of a stretch.
