[quote]Now I'm not a Pro Leet Raider sponsored by Gamma Labs™, I'm just a stranger on the internet, but I'm just gonna come out and say that I can't support this idea. Not because I'm a checkpoint farmer, but because I like that raids give me the option to come back and tackle something if I don't get it on the first go. I don't care about leaderboards or big numbers, that isn't what the game is about to me. I've been around the block a few times and anytime I hear the words "You're not a real ___ unless you ____" my brain shuts off, because normally it's people trying to use themselves as a benchmark for what measures a member of a specific group, and that's never sat right with me. If you raid then you are a raider, you might be bad at it, you might have only done it once or twice, but if you hop into the mix, you're a raider to me. But you probably don't care about my opinion, and this entire post could be bait to get peoples goat, in which case, this is some high bait. But I digress, I'm just an internet stranger and this isn't really important. Who knows maybe they'll add a Super Cereal Mode where you have to complete the raid in one go or you start over and nobody can join in once it's started. Then everyone gets to be happy.[/quote] Raid Completion = at least an hour besides Argos 🗣️ STOP GIVING TOTAL CLEARS TO CP FARMERS

[quote]I'm just gonna come out and say that I can't support this idea. Not because I'm a checkpoint farmer, but because I like that raids give me the option to come back and tackle something if I don't get it on the first go.[b] I don't care about leaderboards or big numbers, that isn't what the game is about to me.[/b][/quote] Fair enough. But leaderboards DO mean something to some of us. I would be fine with any of these options: 1. Leave checkpoints in but ONLY grant a clear if the player has run the whole raid 2. Leave checkpoints in but change all counters (emblem and numbers given to raid report) to ENCOUNTER specific numbers, instead of just boss fight. (like the raid ghost does). Actually this one seems the fairest to all. People could checkpoint farm all they want and those of us doing the whole raid would get numbers for each encounter and it would be more accurate. I understand my post comes off as snooty and bitchy but honestly, it's just frustration at trying to maintain leaderboard position while checkpoint farmers are constantly pushing me down. If the raid were only meant to be ONE fight... then it would only have ONE fight. I'm not trying to tell people how to play, I just want the numbers to be fair and accurate.

[quote]I understand my post comes off as snooty and bitchy but honestly, it's just frustration at trying to maintain leaderboard position while checkpoint farmers are constantly pushing me down.[/quote] Since Bungie doesn't have an official leaderboard this seems like an issue that you should take up with whichever third party sight you use. They have final say in their leaderboards and if you draw issue with the way they work then talking to them would be the way to go.

[quote] Since Bungie doesn't have an official leaderboard this seems like an issue that you should take up with whichever third party sight you use. They have final say in their leaderboards and if you draw issue with the way they work then talking to them would be the way to go.[/quote] It isn't only leaderboards, it's the emblems IN GAME showing totals. It's complete bullshit!

I suppose this would be a problem if being the best was the most important thing in the world to you. I don't personally put to much stock into the stats of anyone who isn't me, and if someone feels the need to farm checkpoints so that they can rub it in strangers faces and get into digital slap fights then they have bigger things to worry about. Also "Super Cereal Mode" is still an idea I'm throwing out there, just saying.