personally I don't care I suck at pvp and only do enough for milestone completion each week. I never quit though no matter how bad a tonking I am getting. I look to myself as a requirement to improve rather than blame matchmaking to be honest though.

Nah quitters are the worst. Worse than the state of this game.

If there's gonna be a penalty for leaving, then I'm gonna be petty as shit, and throw the match. Grab an ammo-less sword, and run around trying to melee the enemy with it. Gonna have some fun while losing.

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They are targeting trials quiters.

D1: go in solo, see opposing team stacked with 6-man group, and still play thinking I have a chance to upset the odds. D2: go in solo, see stacked team of 4, feel like there ain’t no way these blueberries with help me so it’s an auto loss.

Agreed. I won't be coming back to the game as long as it matches solo players against full teams. But it's even worse that they intend to punish solo players for leaving a game that they had no chance of winning because Bungie doesn't know how to do the most basic form of fair matchmaking. I realize that doing it right would increase wait times by a lot. You know what else increases wait times? Not having anyone online to play against. Which is what will happen with this kind of stupid matchmaking.

I guess that I have a different opinion on the matter. Team shooting is not a new thing in either Destiny games' team PvP modes. I do agree that the current matchmaking in Quickplay and Iron Banner modes does often pit full random teams against teams that are all from a particular clan (or at least a group that is running together), and that will often set the full random team at a bit of a disadvantage in terms of communication and experience playing together, but that happened in D1 as well. And skill based matchmaking does seem to be completely absent from D2 PvP in pretty much any mode. But in Quickplay and IB modes, I've been on teams that frequently are subject to players leaving as I play solo quite a bit. My clan mates all have different play schedules, and we aren't able to play together as a group except on the weekends. While I would prefer to finish out a match with the team that I started with, win or lose, I don't get frustrated when players leave my match, or I get stuck on a team with goofball players that don't seem to want to work to win, or they don't play the objective and try to play every match as though it is Clash. Often times, one team will take off with a pretty substantial lead, and some players are left thinking that the match is doomed early on, which is more time than not a premature decision that would show different results had the quitting players actually just stayed in the fight a little longer. I can't count the number of matches that I've played that have started out this way, only to have us turn it around and either win or close the gap and lose by considerable smaller margin. I have been left with 2 teammates, 1 teammate, and even no teammates. I'll always finish the match. In fact, the last couple of times that I was left as the only fireteam member against a full fireteam, one of which was a full clan team, I was laughing so hard that I had trouble playing. It was funny. And I actually had fun just trying to see how well I could do against 4 other players. That is not a different scenario than being in a Survival match and being the last man standing against a full fireteam, or even being in a D1 Trials match and being the last man standing against a full fireteam (except that it would have started out as a 3v3 match). I like a challenge, and being that I am not a top tier player by any stretch of the imagination, most matches are a challenge anyway. But players quitting is the nature of the game, and I have no control over that, so I have to accept that if I am going to play. While I would much prefer to finish the match with the team that I started with, I try to make the best of it if my teammates quit, and I do my best to win, even if it is (or seems) hopeless. It is very rewarding to be able to turn a match around and do well at it, win or lose, even without a full team. While I respect everyone's right to their own opinion, and the people that quit have their reasons for quitting (based on their opinions), I don't have a favorable opinion of the people that quit, just as I'm sure that they most likely think that I'm wasting my time pursuing a lost cause in a heavily offset match that I am at a severe disadvantage. In that light, I would entertain the idea of quit penalties depending on what the penalties actually are and the severity regarding them depending on the frequency of quitting by repeat "offenders". I will say that I don't think that any sort of penalties should be implemented until a Rumble type mode and/or a solo-only type mode is available. I think that would be fair. If players are given a choice of modes, both team play and solo queue play, and they willingly enter a team play activity, they should accept that it is a team play mode and understand that if they quit after committing to team that there will be some sort of consequences that affect their stats, ability to enter such modes for a duration, etc. As far as the discussion of team shooting, that has been present in both version of Destiny, and it is an efficient means of play when it is possible. Being that I play D2 as a solo player in PvP the majority of the time (and did the same in D1 PvP), I face teams employing that play style the majority of the time. I lose to that frequently. And sometimes, I can win against it. The fun, for me, is in the chase. Not everyone shares that viewpoint, nor do I expect them to.

No one is making you play a multi player game solo. To come on here expecting other people to agree with but yet you can't find people to play with? Gtfoh

Quitting penalty doesn't matter if nobody is playing

https://destinytracker.com/d2/profile/psn/JoLo11388 it's not like you don't need to git gud or anything.

As soon as this goes live, pvp numbers will drop. Ddos will start hurting good players.

Me and my friend loaded into a 2v4 in IB. No one joined till it had 3 minutes left. We won

Want about getting matched mid game and they have high supers and 2 of them are running around with heavy?!

If I leave enough will they perks ban me from PvP? Here's hoping.

Lol I wrote a simular post. It's true. Lag out, app error, ddost. All things I hope they are considering.

So give players more reason to not play their game? Lol

They don't give you the option of what game type you want to play, often times match you with either people you probably won't beat or folks that aren't even on your continent (genius P2P system), or sometimes puts you in a "match in progress" (how many times is the score actually in your favor, seriously) or the most popular " You have been disconnected from the game world, visit www.bungie.net for details"... ... [i]and they want to incorporate a penalty system[/i]. A system that will likely malfunction and just piss off more people.