I have two problems with PVP in general. The lag and nerfs affecting PvE.

anyone who has a .3 kd shouldn't even play or be allowed to play player vs player combat modes. It's not hard to be at least decent, just incompetent people who can't grasp what they can and can't do. As well as the people who can barely even listen to their teammates. Everyone wants to be super man until " lag " killed them.

"My finishing statement is yes I know bad players will go flawless but add a reward system that matches your skill this would make trials more fair" If they do this you will find a way to complain that the more skilled players have better loot and that you should also get a crack at that... When will it ever stop if that's the case?? Sheesh...

Trials is meant to be end game, it wasn't designed for people who are crappy at PvP. I'm awful and I play infrequently, and when freaks demolish me and my team, GGs to them. The streamers who do carries are helping people like yourself. If you entered and won a raffle, you definitely wouldn't be complaining about them. To the people who suggest only 1 lighthouse per character per week, that's a logistically stupid idea. There are only a finite number of players in the game. If that were implemented, people would eventually be unable to play on a weekend, as they wouldn't be able to find a third, or because there would be no teams to match against. I think the streamers are great. They help people get to the lighthouse, they often give tips on how to play better, and a lot of them are generally entertaining. Don't go saying you want to essentially take someone's job away just because you, like most of us, aren't in the top per cent that trials was designed for.

Another trials post. Kids you need to stop. 50,000 people went flawless this weekend. Not 50 not 500, not just 1%. 50,000! Carries are not the issue, your own skill is however. Let's put this into perspective. One of the biggest trials streamers is grenader jake, who does 40 hours of trials carries per weekend. At most that's 40 cards, more like 30 since cards take more than an hour, but let's go with 40. Now if he never loses a game, which is actually impossible while doing carries, he would be successful in all 40 cards. Now there are few as big or as successful as jake, but let's say there are 200 like him. Not actually true as the twitch directory is never over 100 with viewers higher than 1. That means that streamers helped 8,000 people go flawless. A lot right? Well not when you compare that to the 42,000 other people that went flawless this weekend! You're upset that you can't go flawless, I get it. Im sorry. Not a good enough reason to change the Esports tournament style of the game type and ruin it for the people that enjoy it weekend after weekend.

No, keep trials exactly the way it is. Think about it this way man, we keep garbage in the garbage can. If you change trials the shit will spill out into everything else.

Trials needs a few things to be fixed: 1. Limit 1 lighthouse trip per weekend per character. Raids are limited to once a week for characters, so Trials should be limited as well; 2. SBMM should replace card-based matchmaking. A lot of higher-end PVPers don't like this because it means their entire card will be difficult rather than just the back half of it, but that is really what Trials was meant to be. If you want to be the best, you need to beat the best. And that doesn't just mean on the back half of your card. The point of trials is to be ultra-competitive, and the only way you can have that is if players are equally skilled every match. 3. Standardized combat. I'm not sure if they want to disable perks, or just go to a system where trials weapons are available for rent, and you can make them adept if you go to the light house (making them permanent), or some other system with a banned list of weapons, but you can't have an even playing field where gear could give one team or another the advantage. Again, this would only apply to TRIALS. 4. Maybe do away with the card all together, and go to a system where you just need to record a 9 game winning streak, and boons are purchasable once per week? This would eliminate the card, the ability to farm KD, and the need to have to return to a vendor to obtain a new card. 5. I also think a zero tolerance stance on confirmed cheaters in Trials is a MUST. If you get caught cheating once, you don't get to equip any Trials gear ever again on that account, and you don't get to participate in trials anymore. No crying, no exceptions.

Thanks for the laugh.

I don't know what streamers you're talking about, but I see lots of them doing [b]Free[/b] carries. I agree the ones who charge boat loads of cash are scum, but I'm sure you can find that on other games too. And who cares if people try their ass off, if I want to help my friends get flawless because they simply lack the skill, Ill sweat my balls off all day long trying. I'm not defending the matchmaking we currently have, this post just seems like you're just whining cause you cant do well in trials. I get that it's -blam!-ed, but alienating people because you have some built up anger against streamers won't make the game better. [spoiler]Cool Clan tag, I now understand.[/spoiler]

The streamers are a problem, but it isn't because of this: [quote][b][i]First everyone that runs into them knows they try real hard and they aren't even on your skill level sometimes and if you have a KD of .3 do you deserve flawless[/i][/b][/quote] The problem with the streamers is they set the meta. And players follow like little sheep. [i]"Wish is wrecking with the vender Hawksaw! I need that too in order to win!"[/i] ~ Random Twitch Viewer Then the entire PvP is made up of Hawksaws and shotties with the community complaining there is no "variety". Months later, Bungie "tunes" the weapon classes, and the streamers find the next big thing to create the new meta, and the community flocks to it while simultaneously bitching the same thing again - a lack of weapon variety. I rarely run metas because I usually find another weapon that works better for me, but then you get in groups and your team is like "Why aren't you running this specific shotgun with these perks!? Get with the meta!" and it annoys the ever-loving shit out of me.

Wee dont need sbmm ruining connections again

No. Trials tiers. Go flawless 1x that week, tier 1, go flawless 2x that week, tier 2. And etc. That means all the streamer scum will be going against other streamer scum instead of casuals hoping for their first L.H. It will also stop the no life kids who's only mission on weekends is ruining players chances. It will also show who really is the best of the best, you know, like the game mode SHOULD be.

People like you are the reason the game is dead.