[quote]I dont think they believe in the "kell of kells" prophecy, but rather use other houses as they see fit. -Them not believing in the House of Rain wouldn't be likely, because the Eliksni dedicated an entire House just for the prophecy makers. Until i saw Myelins video on siva, i suspected that the kings actually used the remaining devils as test subjects. Imagine if they learnt above siva with all their digging, and sent a baron (Aksis) and coordinate the devils, gain access to siva and see if it is a viable tool. I dont have any evidence besides the line at the start of the second mission, stating somebody must have got them organised. That and instinct, the devils were a shattered house, skolas showed no respect for, and they showed very little signs of a inquisitive nature. No all of sudden they are try to break into rasputin (Fallen sabre) and have tinkered with siva. To me all these events in a timeline have the signature of the kings puppetry. Along the lines of what I said, yes. The Kings rule Devils, so maybe it was the Kings who put S.A.B.E.R together. There are also Saber-shanks in the Raid, which I found interesting.[/quote]