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10/16/2016 7:08:06 AM
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It's pretty obvious that we cannot cut taxes without also cutting spending.
We should cut all taxes for every segment of society. We should also cut spending across the board.
We could easily cut taxes if we had the accompanying political will to cut spending.
People should keep more of what they earn. The government should only provide necessary services that no other entity is in position to provide. Our federal government is a behemoth. I'd much rather see the beast starve than continue to grow.
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[quote]The government should only provide necessary services that no other entity is in position to provide. [/quote]..which is exactly what it is doing now. When left up to private enterprise, poor people don't get healthcare, kids don't go to school, roads don't get fixed, etc.
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[quote][quote]The government should only provide necessary services that no other entity is in position to provide. [/quote]..which is exactly what it is doing now. When left up to private enterprise, poor people don't get healthcare, kids don't go to school, roads don't get fixed, etc.[/quote] Then why does the south side of Chicago look like pure asshole? It's been democrat ran for the past 40 years yet teachers are still going on strike, potholes everywhere, tap water almost getting to Flint levels (another democrat ran town by the way), and we're building -blam!-ing gondolas! Yeah, Rahm Emanuel sure does care for minority communities! Mike Madigan and Michelle Mussman have been stuffing their own pockets for years and they also have a D next to their name. See the pattern yet?
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由Mad Max編輯： 10/17/2016 3:19:27 AM[quote][quote]The government should only provide necessary services that no other entity is in position to provide. ..which is exactly what it is doing now. When left up to private enterprise, poor people don't get healthcare, kids don't go to school, roads don't get fixed, etc.[/quote] Then why does the south side of Chicago look like pure asshole? It's been democrat ran for the past 40 years yet teachers are still going on strike, potholes everywhere, tap water almost getting to Flint levels (another democrat ran town by the way), and we're building -blam!-ing gondolas! Yeah, Rahm Emanuel sure does care for minority communities! Mike Madigan and Michelle Mussman have been stuffing their own pockets for years and they also have a D next to their name. See the pattern yet?[/quote]Because both Chicago and Illinois have been rife with corruption for decades. It's not a Democrat problem, it's a corruption problem.
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[quote]Thats simply not true.. You can look at failed states. People move in, very quickly, to fill the void left by government. When Maoist China starved, illegal black markets provided the missing food.[/quote]The reason we have public schools, social security, Medicare, etc, is because the private sector failed them.
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Maybe, but that still doesnt imply that the private sector is incapable of providing those services. I prefer to believe that both the private and public sector are capable of success and failure. Things aren't so set in stone. Simply blaming failure on governments involvement or the private sectors involvement glosses over the real reasons particular ventures fail. The answer is too simple to be of much use.
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[quote]Maybe, but that still doesnt imply that the private sector is incapable of providing those services. I prefer to believe that both the private and public sector are capable of success and failure. Things aren't so set in stone. Simply blaming failure on governments involvement or the private sectors involvement glosses over the real reasons particular ventures fail. The answer is too simple to be of much use.[/quote]Both are capable, yes, but our private sector chose not to help those in need, thus we needed to government to step in. Right now, our private sector is still not set up to help those in need, so reverting back to the era of no public assistance programs would be terrible for those who need them. There's no private alternative to public school, social security, Medicare, etc, so removing them would be a disaster.
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We should search for better alternatives regardless of the sector that provides them. There's no reason to fear a workable idea solely because it's funded by government or corporations. I'm just worried about the current trend. The federal government has been rapidly expanding and I don't see an end in sight.
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[quote]We should search for better alternatives regardless of the sector that provides them. There's no reason to fear a workable idea solely because it's funded by government or corporations. I'm just worried about the current trend. The federal government has been rapidly expanding and I don't see an end in sight.[/quote]Well if you look at every other first world nation, they have universal healthcare, public schools, etc. There's a reason those things work.
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Oh, i'm hesitant to follow Europe's lead. They dont know what they're doing. The best educations come from private education. The best hospitals are private. The question shouldnt be how do we provide for our citizens but why our citizens cant provide for themselves. The solution isnt to help the bottom 20% of society while negatively impacting everyone else(ACA). The solution is addressing why people dont have jobs that allow them to afford healthcare and education. The American dream is a job that allows one access to the good things America offers. We need to address the blatant fact that a large part of society is increasingly being left behind. Consevatives paint them as lazy do-nothings, but the sad reality is plenty of people work full time and cannot provide for themselves.
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由Mad Max編輯： 10/17/2016 9:38:29 PM[quote]Oh, i'm hesitant to follow Europe's lead. [u]They dont know what they're doing[/u].[/quote]Based on...what, exactly? They would say the same thing about us. [quote]The best educations come from private education[/quote]Only if you think evolution is a lie and school should include religious education. [quote]The solution is addressing why people dont have jobs that allow them to afford healthcare and education. The American dream is a job that allows one access to the good things America offers. We need to address the blatant fact that a large part of society is increasingly being left behind. Consevatives paint them as lazy do-nothings, but the sad reality is plenty of people work full time and cannot provide for themselves.[/quote]...and yet people constantly push back against things like minimum wage increases, which would greatly benefit those who are struggling to provide for themselves.
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The past 100 years of European political history. America has been doing popular government since the British colonies were allowed mostly independent governance And, something needs to be done. I'm not certain minimum wage is the best route. I'd rather see something like a government stipend to those earning less than X. I dont think that would adversely effect business and would likely increase consumption.
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由Mad Max編輯： 10/18/2016 12:04:16 AM[quote]The past 100 years of European political history. America has been doing popular government since the British colonies were allowed mostly independent governance[/quote]Then why do all those countries rank higher than the US on healthcare, education, happiness, etc...
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Less populous, for one. America is still doing fine. We have certain areas that do particularly bad, usually in poor neighborhoods with little funding, that drag down all of our scores. Everybody knows we need to fix broken schools and broken neighborhoods but it's not an easy thing to do. You make it sound like America is some hellscape. That's simply not true. We have a very large amount of people doing very well in life. Unfortunately, we also have an ever growing segment of society that is doing very poorly. I'm not one of those that expect them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. This is a problem and it's a cycle that perpetuates itself. Something needs to be done, but I dont claim to know what that is.
