While I respect that it's good, I've never been able to agree that BTRD is better than Jolders. The roll I had (which I'm gonna put on my Warlock) is just unbeatable imo.

Like i said in my post.. Btrd has the best BASE stats, only thing that would make another lmg better was if it had better rolls. God rolls on a btrd made it the best lmg in the game.

Nah. God rolls on BTRD always sacrificed mag size. Plus I love Rangefinder with Crowd Control and after HoW they were on the same slot.

I think my BTRD can compete with your jolder. It's on my titan.

The mistake I feel people make with Heavy Machine guns is they have TOO much stability and I know that might sound crazy and it's something that's difficult to explain with just words. I'd much rather have the extra mag size than the stability on that. My Jolders is perfectly stable even though it's stat is way lower and I get more value out of the higher mag size.

I still get 38 a mag instead of 41. And the max stability is meh until you try to get those long range kills. Which is why I like the stability. You can easily get cross map kills and with Hidden hand the bullet magnetism that is already strong on LMG gets even stronger, giving me easy cross map headshots.