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由AmBiiTioN-編輯: 11/6/2015 4:20:12 PM
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Passive aggressive inappropriate tone from Deej and other Bungie employees

Ive been noticing an increase in the amount of disrespect from bungie employees on community forums. Just look at todays weekly update and the extremely snarky and sarcastic comments from Deej such as "omg he only has 1600 weapon parts left we need to do something" and "we hold the right to do anything with the game economy we want." Does anyone else think snarky comments like this are very unprofessional? Like Bungie you act like your some sort of hero for fixing a problem that YOU created. Here is a comment from another post that explains my thoughts perfectly, all credit goes to user Wahrnye "Just another joke of a weekly update that makes it easier to not look back on this game going forward. Announcing the weapon parts change - Fine, but that's a fix to a problem THEY created. And when addressing the fact that THEY created this problem, DeeJ wraps it up in unnecessary snark about being curators of THEIR living world. Hubris to the highest degree; it's almost as if they're saying how dare we question their choices? Let me say this next part slowly so the apologists can understand: [i][u]Etheric Light and Wormspore uses should have been in the game since September's launch, not something coming soon by December.[/u][/i] They knew Etheric Light was a thing that many people had plenty of and they also introduced Wormspore (apparently) without any regard for what to do with it outside a few weapon upgrades. IIt's going to take them almost 3 months to finally make these things meaningful? These are all issues they created by poor planning or bad oversight, not something they should be praised for fixing AFTER the fact. The rest of the entire update was about the same tired PVP bullshit as almost every other weekly update. No news on new content, no commenting on the terrible loot system - especially in regards to raid drops (I love doing the raid and getting a fourth duplicate item at 302 light... ) - or the fact that Nightfalls, Strikes, and Court of Oryx ceases being rewarding once you reach 300 light or more. I've seen this playbook before. Between this and Activision spouting off their easily manipulated "registered user" numbers (aka 'investor math'), they've pretty much already decided they're going to pander to the base players who believe Bungie can never, ever, do any wrong. Nothing will change going forward. Bungie and Activision are living in their own echo chamber - as evidenced by the fact that they spend more time conversing with the "community" on Bungie-friendly outlets like Reddit and Twitter..." EDIT: A lot of you seem to think im just looking for something to be offended by cuz im a "no balls toxic loser" Its more im just fed up with the bullshit direction this game is taking like timegating exotics that i already payed for to extend gameplay time and patching things like weapon parts for no -blam!-ing reason Perhaps the most irritating thing is the bungie fanboys and dickriders who will stop at nothing to defend everything the devs do to this game and every word that comes out of that douchebag known as Deej's mouth. Go ahead meet me with ninja justice for stating the obvious about your shit company and bottomfeeder fanboys EDIT2 It seems the common defense for Deejs tone is "oh bungie has to go through so much shit and complaining on the forums, people are meanies" You people cant seriously believe its ok for a company to retaliate in this fashion. Oh no a game developer has to see negative feedback about the game they made wahh wahh prayers for bungie" All of you are saying "can the entitled/offended generation go away", if you ask me the people defending bungie with this mindset are the "offended generation." Some of you say, "The customer is always right bullshit has to stop." Anyone who utters this is a complete moron and has either no concept of business ethics or is 15 years old and thinks they are being righteous and hip. Go ahead, start a business and whenever a customer has a problem with you or the product, tell them to -blam!- OFF. Yea thats a good business model, you will surely succeed.

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  • [quote] You people cant seriously believe its ok for a company to retaliate in this fashion. a complete moron Go ahead, start a business and whenever a customer has a problem with you or the product, tell them to -blam!- OFF. Yea thats a good business model, you will surely succeed.[/quote] But its okay for people to be passive aggressive or just flat out aggressive?

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    • This isn't a happy meal, it's an agreement between the company and a player, if the forums can crack jokes at their expense, I have no problem with them cracking jokes at ours, especially if they fix the problem regardless.

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      • Have you seen the stupidity on these forums? Everybody works at McDonald's but want to talk like they know something. Id be downright aggressive if I had to read drivel (like this post) every day.

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      • Compared to the community? Lol

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      • Dude, you wrote THAT much just to complain about the developers? It's a game. Move on to something else if you don't want to support them. No one will notice you're gone. Why do so many people who bitch about Destiny refuse to leave these forums and move on? It's not a marriage. It's a video game!

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        • my first thought was "1656?!! thats dire??! i got under 100 on all 3 characters.constantly farming the dregnaught public event for more. id be golden if i had 1600 right now." that comment seemed a bit like rubbing in our face like "im richer hahahehe but we'll throw you a bone"

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        • TBH at least prior to TTK they hid their greed now its just in plane sight and now I don't want to play this game anymore. I think the Narrator for GCN gaming sins on youtube summed it up well;"The more you play the more you hate it." When he was talking about him playing through destiny for a sins video.

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        • The sad thing about all of this is that we've come to a point in gaming history where the challenge for players is not in the game itself, but in getting developers to deliver the kind of quality that the industry was built upon. Sure, you can argue that people are human and make mistakes. And you can also sympathize with them when they get angry and resent us for calling them out on those mistakes. However a line has definitely been crossed when the standard has become releasing unfinished products, charging us extra for the missing pieces, and expecting us to swoon and shower them with praise just for doing their job.

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        • I think maybe you need to take a break for this game. there's no reason any person should get so offended about almost nothing, especially when it's almost nothing in a weekly update for a video game. people are dying. all over the world good people are dying who don't deserve to die. during all this death and evil triumphing, there's hundreds of people outraged that a community manager for a video game company, said something subjectively snarky in a weekly update.

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        • Bump

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        • The error is yours because you are caring about this guy "Deejay": who the hell is him? Why he keeps speaking about the game? My advice is to only pay attention to actual pro gamers words (and no, professor noobman is not one of them)

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        • If had to deal with this whiney, toxic community, bashing on what I created on a daily basis, I'd create passive aggressive updates too. Imagine how you'd react if, no matter what you did, you were told you're stupid and you effed it up.

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        • Because weekly updates dictate the gameplay. I'm people be being so dumb it rediculus

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        • Bungie obviously isn't intentionally trying to make their own customers angry. It's just a sensitive topic to some people (the weapon parts) so they can't take a dry joke. Which I might add, Deej, was pretty humorous right here. And really- why get mad at him for telling the truth?

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        • Agree with all you said mate. This forum is full of people who think we owe Bungie something, they act like its our duty to support them no matter how disrespectful they are, people should not be surprised that Deej speaks like this about an issue THEY created. Luke Smith did the same about pricing, pure arrogance. They dont seem to have a clue apart from enforcing the "Play the way we want" card. And I am tired of it. And if you think its bad here just look at the Destiny Reddit, I call everyone there "Toes" because they are so far up Bungies backside its the only part of them still visible. I dont trust Bungie. I dont like the silence at the obvious issues and the tinkering with things that no one complained about. They arent getting anymore of my money. Kokatu told us that EVERYTHING we have paid for was in the Supercut. Thats why it was cut, to be sold off in chunks. If you believe that article they binned Joe's story, according to them, for a more coherent story. Swing and a miss there Bungie. They have been misleading us since day one with all the hype and the way they hint at things but NEVER confirm or deny. I have plenty of games to play, Destiny is pretty much dead for me now. Pretty soon the only ones playing this game will be the fanboys and even they will wake up and smell the coffee one day.

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          • To be honest, I'd take a condescending tone if I had to deal with these forums. After therapy of course.

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          • >Remove disc from console >Place snugly in case >Return to nearest video game store >Ask for refund >Play something else

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            • I agree with the post. I think the majority of people miss the bigger picture and just want to get the chance to be a dickhead. Every time I see a logical and reasonable post, people hate it and call OP "sensitive" or tell him "it's just a video game." While it is a game, we all spend a lot of time in it and feel we have carved our very own piece of the Destiny world out for ourselves. We are involved on a personal level. Although at this point, most vets should know that Bungie makes a business out of making our hard work be for nothing. As for the whole weapon parts famine, I was also one of those guys who rerolled everything under the sun to get a perfect roll and try new things. Auto rifles (even though they were shit), hand cannons, pulse rifles, shotguns (I specifically rolled 3 shotguns with battle runner and shot package, as well as a party crasher with rangefinder and luck in the chamber), sniper rifles (most people went for final round, I went for a her benevolence with clown cartridge and performance bonus. Also rerolled some low grade humilities) and the mother of all rerolls, rocket launcher with proximity and tripod. Why should I be punished for using a system that they created and wanted us to use? MANY of us wanted to reroll weapons. Just because some elitist pricks never rerolled anything and ended up with over a thousand weapon parts doesn't mean the whole community should suffer. I'd probably have over 2 thousand weapon parts if I never rerolled a single weapon. Before you say go run prison of elders or strikes, I ran both before TTK came out for vanilla armor and weapons and I ran at least 30 straight lvl 28 prisons so I could reach rank 3 and get the shaders. Nobody wants to do all that just to TRY a new weapon out. God forbid we want to infuse anything! Now I have legendary marks for days because I don't have the weapon parts to infuse into anything. Bungie has no clue how to manage their own economy system. Stats don't lie, but stats don't account for what's really going on.

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              • i was a bit offended by what deej said,but than again ive been playing witcher 3 for the past few weeks and havent touched this game...i guess bungie got my 150 bucks so they dont give a shit....guess what im trying to say is IM GONNA BANG TRISS MARIGOLD...we are gonna make a baby...take your strangers rifle and shove it up your ass

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              • I agree. I'm just gonna stop playing destiny overall if they want to be unprofessional, as they've created problems they want to "fix" later. Don't even get me started on sunbreaker. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. THE HAMMER OF SOL IS THE ENTIRE -blam!-ING CLASS. We don't have any other special abilities, everything revolves around our super. Nerfing the hammer of sol is beefing the entire class, not exactly fair imo

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              • #DeeJ is a snarky, smug shill, who will say anything the hand up his asshole tells him to say. He's not our friend, he's not our peer. He is our "manager". He truly acts as though he is on some kind of hierarchy [i]above[/i] us.

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                • I agree with 99%[spoiler].Fuel beams can't melt steel jet [/spoiler]

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                • what i dont get about their logic behind the weapon part nerf is just bc one person has 1500 bc they put in 90+ hours a week on the game doesnt mean EVERYONE has shit loads, all theyre doing is punishing the people who dont have much time to put into the game

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                  • Oh geez. I'd hate to be in Deej's position. Unless he tells you exactly what you want to hear exactly the way you want to hear it, all of you go -blam!-ing bonkers. While that in itself is hilarious to watch, it also makes me embarrassed for humanity. Get over it already. The important part is that they're listening and giving us a way to get weapon parts like everyone wanted. The community managers for any given game are supposed to keep things light. None of you would want gloom and doom, and none of you would want him to outright call the lot of you the damned idiots you act like on the forums most of the time. This thread is case in point. Try and get past how he says some given thing, take the real message, and then move on without the foam on your mouths. And don't think this is unique to Destiny or something. I remember back when blogs and such were posted for WoW, and everyone went -blam!-ing crazy over anything that was perceived to be poking fun at anything anyone ever said or did.

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                  • I agree with you man, but as I'm not the one running the game, all I can do is bring forward concerns and hope they fix them. If they get heard, fantastic. If not, oh well.

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                  • Dear lord someone needs a nap

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