People hate them? I mean of course some of them are dumb, but not all of them. Wasn't Dust: An Elysian Tail an indie game? Because, I'm not over exaggerating in the least when I say that was one of the best games I've ever played. (and probably had some of the best jokes I've ever seen) [quote]"And don't worry about Giovanni; we'll sort him out." "Yeah! Like the laundry!" "(sigh) Yes, Fidget, like the laundry.."[/quote]