Bruh... Who cares what others think? People say that thorn requires no skill, that BS is a weak excuse, give your wife or any gamer who doesnt play FPS a thorn and run them through crucible, judge the results. By that very logic, an unskilled person would be able to start wrecking, that is not the case. Now if the rebuttal is, well they have to have some FPS knowledge, then that goes against the very same logic they applied in the sense that IT DOES REQUIRE SKILL to use. People just look for ways to bring in excuses when going up against Thorns. Truth is, the hate mail I get is from, TLW! But never Thorn, interesting huh? I agree that crucible is unbalanced, but if you earned your Thorn and used it with great success, keep using it. People will be salty about handcannons while using handcannons. You want to know what will happen next? Whatever major nerfs an buffs are coming down the pipe will eventually lead to another weapon that people will complain about, while no mention of Thorn anyway in sight. To hell with these groups, if I or you want to use an OP weapon, GO FOR IT. GET YOU'RE KILLS AND ENJOY THE SALTY TEARS. Nobody is going to stop you, what? They will send hate mail or gang up on you in the forums? Lmfao, words bruh, nothing but words from kids. If you feel that much about it, then start off with a legendary an if the scene is nothing BUT thorns an TLWs, bust out yours. I always start off with either Jewel or The Scholar, OP weapons on their own, but if the scene switches up, switch up too if it becomes over bearing.