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由HNTR_77编辑：
12/22/2014 4:41:32 AM
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This is what your message feels like. If you want to share love and hope, just be a friendly person. Merry Christmas.
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To me it's about cults, religions, and any similar organized flock of people that promise you "love" if you behave the way they want you to; and will intimidate, belittle, demean, and threaten you, with an actual or imagined power, if you step out of line. that's what I got listening to the lyrics
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The "Good News" isn't good; learning about the damnation to eternal torture of the majority of human souls is in no way a good and pleasant thing to hear, even if a few are allowed to escape it because of what they do or do not believe. There is nothing you can say against this.
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由CAPO 9编辑： 12/22/2014 3:56:55 AMThe bad news of the wages of sin is the reason why the good news is preached. Jesus came to the world to save sinners. If it isn't real then there's absolutely no reason to entertain the thought, but if you have reason to believe it may be true then that is the Holy Spirit speaking to your heart, the Spirits job is to convict the world of sin, reveal the righteousness of God and warn men of the coming judgment. God does not simply send people to hell, rejecting God is embracing Hell. Hell is where there is no God, that is there is no goodness, no peace, no love, no joy, no hope, no happiness. All of these good things are experienced because God is with us on earth. Rejecting God is rejecting all that is good. Since evil is simply put, the absence of good, darkness is the absence of light. God is good, God is light and in him there is no darkness. The bad news is our sin has corrupted us, separating us from a Holy and Righteous God. The good news is we can be born again, we can be made new through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ. God's Justice demands punishment for sin, since the criminal cannot go unpunished, that would be unjust, therefore God sent His son to bare the consequence of sin on our behalf, in order to save us from the coming judgment. Misunderstanding God's Holiness is the primary reason why people do not take sin seriously. Think of it like this, would you invite a violent man who you have no relationship with into your home to live with your kids and wife? This man by the way will kill your kids, hurt your wife etc if you let him in. The answer is NO. Well in the same way, as sinners we cannot enter into the new heaven and the new earth if we have not been born again, transformed by the grace of God. We need to be purified of our sin, or else we'd enter heaven as sinners and bring evil into a place where God has said there will be no evil. How will we reign with a God we've hated all our life? We must be born again in order to enter God's kingdom without sin. Hell is where evil exists. This is why hell is real because evil is real and well hell is the like the place of refuse, where all of the evil and darkness and waste is. It is because we are eternal beings that we must go to one of these places, we choose now where we want to be.
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由HNTR_77编辑： 12/22/2014 4:17:52 AM[quote]If it isn't real then there's absolutely no reason to entertain the thought, but if you have reason to believe it may be true then that is the Holy Spirit speaking to your heart[/quote] What you've actually said here is "If Christianity isn't real, then there is no reason to even think about it, but if you ever, ever, ever, think to yourself 'hey Christianity might be real', that is definitely, absolutely a good enough reason to go ahead and believe it really is real." Again, the "Good News" isn't good; learning about the damnation to eternal torture of the majority of human souls is in no way a good and pleasant thing to hear, even if a few are allowed to escape it because of what they do or do not believe. There is nothing you can say against this.
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由HNTR_77编辑： 12/22/2014 4:38:40 AM[quote]I welcome anyone with grace and peace[/quote] No, you don't; that's self righteous and bigoted of you to say. What you're actually doing is asserting passive aggressive and plausibly deniable threats of eternal torture; there is nothing graceful or peaceful about that, that's how con men behave. [quote] What I basically said is that if you do not believe the message then why do you entertain it. You choose to be in this post.[/quote] Are you insinuating that I don't have a right to be in this thread? If so, you're just wrong about that, and actually not very welcoming at all...
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由HNTR_77编辑： 12/22/2014 7:35:56 AM[quote]I'm not here to convince you of anything[/quote] That's a lie, given the massive wall of text you wrote trying to proselytize. Also the video is an attempt at [i]convincing[/i] people to believe. You're straight up lying to my face. That's not a loving thing to do; that's [i]cowardly[/i], and shows that you have some ulterior motive (like say, you're actually motivated by fear of punishment in hell, for failing to follow God's commands, as opposed to really being motivated by compassion). I don't respect what you're doing, and will revert to my original message; If you want to share love and hope, just be a friendly person. Brother, you chose to make this thread, inviting discussions like these, and you chose to continue a conversation with me, you always have the option of muting or reporting me if you feel harassed or persecuted; but I would be disappointed if you muted me. I don't think that's a friendly thing to do.
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I cannot think of one person Iv ever met face to face that did not come to respect me as a person even if I talked about Christ. You think you know me because we've texted back and forth about this topic but you don't really know me as a person because you haven't even heard my voice or seen my eyes. But yea just wanted to clarify somethings
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由HNTR_77编辑： 12/22/2014 3:01:27 PMYour appearance and voice aren't relevant. I don't respect the [i]ideas[/i] you're communicating. If you think it's the look in your eye and your tone of voice that count, that's incredibly shallow; that's what hypnotists use to influence people. I still think you're acting very badly.
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由CAPO 9编辑： 12/22/2014 3:30:21 PMYour crazy man lol. I'm not acting bad at all. The eyes are like the gateway to the soul, I simply said eyes because the eyes can communicate a lot about a person. I'm done talking with you about this. You have the right to not respect the gospel, and unfortunately many people take offense to the message of Christ, it is what it is. Why do you think they crucified the Son of God? Because he spoke the truth. You don't like my words because simply don't believe my testimony and don't believe that Christ is the Son of God. It's that simple. I cannot apologize to you for speaking the truth but I do sympathize.
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You are behaving badly, and I don't respect that. You lied to my face. Also, don't call me crazy. I've respected you as a person, and treated you with dignity; and here you go calling me crazy. "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." - Matt, 5:22
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由HNTR_77编辑： 12/22/2014 8:31:56 PMHow am I acting confused? I'm honestly insulted. How am I acting confused? I'm honestly insulted. You lied to me when you told me you weren't trying to convince anybody of anything; you're trying to proselytize, dude. You called me crazy. And again, like I said before; your message isn't good.
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由HNTR_77编辑： 12/22/2014 8:44:10 PMNow you're straight insulting me. You're the one who's taking this personally not me. I think your behavior is cowardly, disrespectful, and harmful to other people; but I've never called you crazy, insinuated that you're immature, or disrespected you as a person. I don't respect your beliefs, they are bad, but if you can't accept that it is only your beliefs I do not respect, and that I am challenging them because I think it shows respect to you as a person, then it must be you who is acting immaturely. I don't think you [i]are[/i] immature, I think you are acting immature. And that's really the difference between you and me; you've called me crazy, insinuated that I'm immature, and lied to my face.
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由CAPO 9编辑： 12/22/2014 10:05:02 PMYour funny man. Get on with your life. Why are you still bothering me? What I find amusing is that you are slandering me, making me out to be a villain, as thou I intentionally insulted you with the intent to hurt your feelings, or as thou I were doing some evil thing, that's why I said your crazy, lightheartedly, I asked your age because I would expect it from a young guy or perhaps a sensitive guy. Honestly dude, your acting very sensitive. That's just me being honest, all I did was share with you the truth of the Bible and your acting like I'm a villain and like I'm intentionally trying to hurt your feelings. I'm not going to baby you and apologize to you as thou I attacked you, I am a very nice guy, you would know that if you really knew me. If you were hungry, I'd give u some food, if you needed clothing, I'd help in whatever way I can. You do not know me, so stop slandering me. You are the one who's actually insulted me, saying my behavior is cowardly, harmful, disrespectful. Iv done no such thing. You have also demonized The word of God, saying it is a lie and that it is bad and that it is meant to control people, that is a total distortion of the truth and an insult to God's word and His plan for your life and everyone else. But Jesus said if they hated me they will hate you too, a servant is not greater than his master. If you think my behavior is harmful, then I don't know what you'd think of the Lord Jesus Christ. You simply do not believe the Word of God. Jesus said accept a man be born again, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. Do you find the words of Christ harmful? If so then it's simply because you don't believe, but you can't charge me with wrongdoing because I shared the Word of God with you.
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由HNTR_77编辑： 12/22/2014 11:29:03 PMI would like you to apologize for your pride and self-righteousness. I want you to apologize for calling me crazy. I want you to apologize for lying to me (twice now). I want you to apologize for believing that I'm a sinner who deserves to go to hell; and I want you to apologize for patronizing me and thinking you're above me. I believe I deserve an apology for all those things.
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Honestly the thing is I cannot convince you that Jesus is Lord, I put the video up to touch the heart of someone who might be touched. You are taking it to another level. My motives are as simple as sharing the truth of God's love. It's such a great video, I didn't expect that much opposition from such a great video. You are twisting my words and making assumptions about my character and motives. If you've ever played with me online, you would no that I don't slam the bible in people's face, I talk to individuals about God when I feel the time is right and if they do not accept it, I respect them and continue to be a friendly, respectful person. Now when it comes to social media and forums I tend to express myself freely, inviting those who believe and welcoming those who don't believe with grace but It's not my wish to argue, arguments are just the unfortunate result of faith and unbelief colliding. I would leave it here with u, its not my desire to keep going back and dirty about this with u. I know where u stand and I respect you as a person. You have me misunderstood, I am not a liar. I don't always use the best words to express what I want to express but I am sincere, and always motivated by love when I preach about Christ, that shouldn't be hard to understand, if you out yourself in my shoes. I had an encounter with the Lord when I was 15, I had a vision of God in my bedroom on the night I prayed to God to save me, I hit rock bottom and cried out to God with all my heart saying "if Jesus is truly Lord I need you to save me". That night I fell asleep, and I woke up in the middle of the night and the Holy Spirit of God was flying across the window in the form of a Dove towards a cross my uncle had at the foot of his bed, the bed was built up at the ceiling of my room. The Holy Spirit illuminated the room with the glory of God, the light of God, shining brighter than the sun. I was in awe. Then I fell back to sleep. Well when I woke up in the morning I told my mom and she took me to a church where later that day I met a brother who asked us how we were doing, I told him a bit of my life story and he empathized with me, my mother cried as she told him how I was doing, how I was a rebel child. So yea he asked me and I shared with him a bit of my life. He shared with me his testimony and I was impacted by his story, how God saved him from a orphan situation and transformed his life. I knew then that Christ was real because of my vision and because of the mans testimony, so he told me of Christs love and asked me if I wanted to accept Christ as my lord and savior. I accepted Christ that day and my life has never been the same ever since. I came into a relationship with God that's real, iv had many experiences and continue to experience God in my life because Jesus is alive and seated at the right hand of God the Father. So this is why I preach, not because I want to spread what I think is the truth but because I want to share what I know is the truth because I know the truth, I KNOW Jesus. Jesus is the truth, the way and the life. But I know there are people who will not believe my testimony, it's not my job to convince, it's my job to testify and pray for people. God is the one who saves. That all I have to say really.
